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02-24-2004, 06:44 PM
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Libertarian Party Positions
http://www.lp.org/issues/
I probably agree with about 2/3 of their policy positions.
Any thoughts on their issues stances?
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02-24-2004, 08:24 PM
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I'm left enough that I agree with the libertarians on some issues (drugs, free speech), but I disagree with them on most others (poverty, guns, taxes).
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02-25-2004, 01:37 AM
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I'd have gone out and registered libertarian a long time ago if I thought it would make a difference.
I'm just forced to choose the lesser of two evils. Republicans trying to turn the state into a theocracy vs. Democrats wanting to move us closer to socialism.
Not a great choice. I usually go with the Republicans though.
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02-25-2004, 08:26 PM
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If you had been paying attention, you would have noticed that I have been telling you all to vote Libertarian for quite some time now.
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02-25-2004, 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by ktsnake
I'd have gone out and registered libertarian a long time ago if I thought it would make a difference.
I'm just forced to choose the lesser of two evils. Republicans trying to turn the state into a theocracy vs. Democrats wanting to move us closer to socialism.
Not a great choice. I usually go with the Republicans though.
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Ditto.
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Originally posted by DeltaBetaBaby
If you had been paying attention, you would have noticed that I have been telling you all to vote Libertarian for quite some time now.
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I've voted Libertarian, for every election with a Libertarian candidate, since 1996, with the exception of the Mayor of the City of New York.
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02-26-2004, 02:06 AM
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Originally posted by DeltaBetaBaby
If you had been paying attention, you would have noticed that I have been telling you all to vote Libertarian for quite some time now.
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I'd hate to do that with around 5% of my fellow Americans and end up with some socialist like Kerry in office.
While I'm really not liking Bush and his Biblical legislation, it actually scares me to think what direction someone who agrees with Ted Kennedy 99% of the time would take the country.
The practical thinker in me tells me that Bush is the lesser of two evils.
The only time in my memory that a third party candidate has done very well was when Ross Perot ran. Damn that would have been scary
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02-26-2004, 08:54 PM
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Yes, but when you vote Libertarian, you are voting not only for the Libertarian platform, but for the ideas of ballot access and a multi-party system.
Also keep in mind that every time there is an election, Libs need a certain percentage of the vote to be guaranteed ballot access in the next election. So your vote is very important to the party even if they have no chance in hell of winning that particular election.
In addition, the POTUS has very little direct effect on your life compared to some of the local offices, many of which are held by Libs across the country.
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02-28-2004, 12:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by ktsnake
I'd have gone out and registered libertarian a long time ago if I thought it would make a difference.
I'm just forced to choose the lesser of two evils. Republicans trying to turn the state into a theocracy vs. Democrats wanting to move us closer to socialism.
Not a great choice. I usually go with the Republicans though.
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Choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.
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02-28-2004, 01:16 AM
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Yes, I know that this wasn't the original question, but I am in full agreement with the Libertarian philosophy (if that's what you'd like to call it!) and I've always voted Libertarian.
I hate when people say that I'm throwing my vote away though. How CAN you throw a vote away????? If I'm voting for the party or person who I believe will do the best job, then I am doing my duty as a citizen, right?
I fully agree with the stance that we should have immense personal freedoms and the federal government should function as it was initially intended in the constitution (i.e. national security and defense; it shouldn't be involved with things that could be handled on the state and local level).
Of course, in any political party, there are issues that are disputed among members, like abortion. But, on the whole, I am VERY Libertarian.
As for the abortion issue, I am pro-choice which DOES NOT MEAN pro-abortion. I am VERY much against abortion, but I refuse to deny someone else's right to make her own decision. In addition, I can accept legal abortion until the point at which a fetus can actually survive outside the womb. But, beyond that (partial birth abortion - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!) it gets scary.
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02-29-2004, 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by ktsnake
I'd hate to do that with around 5% of my fellow Americans and end up with some socialist like Kerry in office.
While I'm really not liking Bush and his Biblical legislation, it actually scares me to think what direction someone who agrees with Ted Kennedy 99% of the time would take the country.
The practical thinker in me tells me that Bush is the lesser of two evils.
The only time in my memory that a third party candidate has done very well was when Ross Perot ran. Damn that would have been scary
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I'm seriously with you bro.
My own confidence in W has seriously waned and i really don't think i could vote for him again. I would really vote Lib if they could run a candidate that would inspire people to vote for them.
But seriously, is it even feasible that if we got a lib president they could accomplish some of the tasks they put forward? anything they would try to implement would have to go through congress first, which would surely bog down any improvements with partisan bickering.
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02-29-2004, 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
But seriously, is it even feasible that if we got a lib president they could accomplish some of the tasks they put forward? anything they would try to implement would have to go through congress first, which would surely bog down any improvements with partisan bickering.
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If we had a Libertarian president, there would be a real discussion of Libertarian ideas in this country. Even if few positions, like school vouchers, and drug legalization, got anything more than a real discussion, I believe that the population would move towards agreeing with these positions. The two major parties would then have to follow the people.
I personally have voted for Libertarian presidential nominees in 1996 and 2000, and will do so again in 2004. I live in New York State, where the Democratic nominee is certain to win. I believe that voting for a Democrat or Republican is a wasted vote, but voting for a Libertarian can help raise the numbers so that our positions are taken more seriously. Another 100,000 votes for a Libertarian in New York won't change the election, but it will draw a lot of attention, and I see something like that as a small victory for Libertarian (classical liberal) values.
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02-29-2004, 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by ktsnake
The only time in my memory that a third party candidate has done very well was when Ross Perot ran. Damn that would have been scary
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Sorry, had to post again! It might have been scary but I think our financial/economic state would have been much improved!!! LOL!
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02-29-2004, 10:33 PM
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I just got my latest LP news. Would anyone like to read it when I am done?
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02-29-2004, 11:03 PM
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My ex husband voted for Perot. He delighted in the fact that no matter which candidate actually won, when they screwed up, he could say "It's not my fault, I didn't vote for him".. LOL
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