Is this REALLY true at super competitve schools?!

absolutuscchick · #1 07-13-2003, 04:05 AM

I read somewhere a while ago about how girls who had their hearts set on a certain "good" sorority or were legacies of a certain chapter would go to a less competitive greek school just to get into that said chapter, then transfer to an SEC or very competitive greek system school. Is this just a load of crap or does this actually ever happen?

sugar and spice · #2 07-13-2003, 05:32 AM

I'm sure it happens, but is probably pretty rare.

aopinthesky · #3 07-13-2003, 08:13 AM

I am sure it happens, but I don't think it happens much anymore. Most chapters are not obligated to extend active membership to a transfer student these days. It wouldn't make you any less a member of a certain group, but I don't believe the chapter has to socialize with you unless they want to. I have heard that it also depends on whether or not the chapter is at total, thus having room for the transfer (someone correct me if I am wrong about that part).

carnation · #4 07-13-2003, 09:31 AM

It happens--we have a couple of threads on it somewhere. In every case I've heard of, the chapter at the new school would not take the girl who was trying to affiliate either because they didn't like her or they didn't want to start a trend of having to deal with a lot of that. I personally only know of one case but since that thread was published, I've been told of a lot more.

Apparently, accepting an affiliate can only be done if you're under total at some schools and it doesn't matter at others.

SmartBlondeGPhB · #5 07-13-2003, 01:35 PM

Supposedly it happened at my school when I was still there (91/92) and it's not even "super competitive" like the south. A woman wanted to be a Gamma Phi at one of the state schools here (where Gamma Phi is a top chapter and it's harder to get into). So she went to UPS for a year, rushed, joined Gamma Phi and then transferred the next year. She's listed under that chapter so she did affiliate with them.

Munchkin03 · #6 07-13-2003, 02:27 PM

Whatever happened to going to a specific college for a good education?

KillarneyRose · #7 07-13-2003, 02:29 PM

I was curious about this a few years ago and started a thread about it and was told, sure enough, that this DOES happen sometimes, especially at the large, Southern schools with cutthroat rushes.

When I think about it, though, I'm not sure how much good it would ultimately do a woman to go through all that trouble. It seems that down there, sororities know EVERYTHING about a person (j/k, well, only a little

) so if, for example, a woman joined ABC at Podunk State with the intention of transferring to, say, LSU where the chapter is very strong, even if she was able to affiliate I bet she'd be known for the rest of her days as that ABC from the Podunk State chapter .

I expect that, for the most part, Southern women are waaaay too greek-savvy to fall for the "rush-n-transfer" ploy.

AOII*Azra-elle · #8 07-13-2003, 03:12 PM

Our chapter consultant went to school at Auburn and said that girls would go through recruitment there and that they already knew what houses they want, would then proceed to suicide and if they didn't get into said house then they would transfer schools within a month or so to another school with the same glo and try to get in at that school. I thought that was crazy talk, but then I thought about it and yea, it's true!

Glitter650 · #9 07-13-2003, 03:15 PM

So is it the school's pahel that can prevent transfers due to total regulations or can an org vote not to have a girl affiliate ? Because I'm *fairly* sure Phi Sig has a policy that states that if a girl transfers to a school that has a chapter she must join, or disaffiliate (you can not be granted alum status if your new school has a chapter) and the sisters must welcome her in the spirit of "once a phi sig, always a phi sig"
It seems rather harsh to me that your sisters from another chapter could vote not to affiliate you. I mean sure it's rather sneaky to pull a "rush-n-transfer"(that was cute KR) but... what happens to those girls who honestly just didn't end up having the best time at school or changed majors and needed a school with a better program? I would be devastated to know I coudln't participate if I transfered even though there was a chapter at my new school... I mean sure this rush-n-transfer thing is tacky and should be dealt with... but having to put a transfer sister to a vote seems kinda harsh to me... since one of the benefits of being in a national org is supposed to be having sisters everywhere and being welcome... I think of some girl is... umm gutsy enough to try and pull this loophole... if she did indeed transfer for the sole purpose of being an ABC.. that reputation is going to follow her around. no one will look at her the same. It's a shame that this even has to be brought up...we should be able to welcome transfer sisters without worrying abou their motives...

carnation · #10 07-13-2003, 03:22 PM

We had at least one thread about that too...I have mixed feelings. On the one hand, it seems like you should be able to transfer to whatever chapter. On the other hand, it would certainly be abused at some places in the South--chapters would actually tell people to use this ploy. Also, on that thread, many GCers wrote about people from hell who tried to affiliate with their chapters...seems like AXO Alum had an incredible story.

I get the impression that it's abused enough that no NPC group could be forced to take an affiliate.

Silverblue · #11 07-13-2003, 03:52 PM

When I was a senior, I heard about a girl who had transferred to UT after becoming an INITIATED member at another school's chapter of a sorority with a chapter at UT. The UT chapter wanted her to go through rush again to see if she was "worthy" of becoming a member of the chapter. Remember, she already had been INITIATED. I know she refused to rush again, but I don't know if she affiliated.

Jill1228 · #12 07-13-2003, 04:17 PM

I read about this in the "Southern Belle Primer" book
(yes that book had it's own thread on GC!)

hottytoddy · #13 07-13-2003, 05:18 PM

I am in a sorority at Ole Miss and you always hear about "so and so" who went through rush somewhere else then transferred to Ole Miss just because she didn't think she would get in a sorority here. I'm not sure that is necessarily true. I guess there is no way of really knowing why they transferred. But I hear about this kind of thing sometimes. Now, I have seen girls transfer to another school because they didn't get in the sorority they want or because they didn't get in one at all. I think that is more common.

texas*princess · #14 07-13-2003, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jill1228
I read about this in the "Southern Belle Primer" book
(yes that book had it's own thread on GC!)

I was thinking the same thing when I read this thread!

I read about that in the Southern Belle Primer!!!

absolutuscchick · #15 07-13-2003, 05:51 PM

I think that the fact that a girl would do this is sad, but I think its even more sad that someone who joined a chapter at one school would not be accepted at another. If that were to happen to any girl, I can only imagine what a negative reflectionof the greek community it would be! I believe that ABC ought to be well-organized enough so that if any chapter chooses a girl, then that girl should be a girl of quality who reflects ABC, and who will be a member of ABC for LIFE, not just while she is at one particular school. I understand that girls obviously DO abuse this, but it is not at all fair to take a girl in and then practically throw her out.