The Real "fake" Greeks

#1 10-18-2002, 04:19 PM

http://www.thebatt.com/vnews/display...b?in_archive=1

This was in our school newspaper last week. Me and my bros got a good laugh at it. Does this make anyone else just shake their head and kinda feel sorry for these people?

Kitso
KS 361 things that being a Greek means to me, besides parties and Tshirts

#2 10-18-2002, 05:03 PM

Granted, all I know about these organizations is what I read in the article, but it sounds like they want the fun and esteem that comes with being a greek without any of the work. What's the point?

I don't think these kids understand what being a fraternity or sorority member is all about. I can only imagine the new member program if one of these groups manages to stick around... a group of new members will be sitting around a table one day, while their NM Educator stands there and says:

"Welcome to ABC. This organization was founded because, um, a couple of girls thought that greek letters looked cool and stuff? and they wanted some t-shirts? and they were jealous of the other sororities parties? So, yeah - here's your t-shirt and go have fun"

FuzzieAlum · #3 10-18-2002, 05:05 PM

These folks had better watch out. By setting themselves up as pretend organizations but doing real things, the university is going to hold them to standards of accountability they may not be prepared for.

Kevin · #4 10-18-2002, 05:25 PM

I don't understand why you'd have something where you claim that there is real brotherhood going on and then call it a "fake fraternity".

They really don't look very different than your run of the mill local groups..

Maybe some of them will develop into something... others will be sued out of existance and their members' and founders' lives dedicated to paying a large settlement brought around by stupidity and lack of risk management.

josh8o · #5 10-18-2002, 05:28 PM

that is making me go HMMMMMMM....
fake greek life....that just sounds like a contradiction.

33girl · #6 10-18-2002, 05:28 PM

Some of my non-Greek friends jokingly said they were members of Lambda Delta Lambda - Let's Do Lunch - since they ate in the caf together every day. When it's a little in-joke between friends - fine. When you're holding events - come on.

KappaKittyCat · #7 10-18-2002, 05:51 PM

Now who's buying friends?

greekalumna · #8 10-18-2002, 06:21 PM

I really don't see anything too wrong with what the students are doing. For whatever reason traditional Greek life at their school wasn't the right thing for them but being a member of these groups (whether formal groups or just an informal gathering of friends) enriches their college experience so I commend them for being involved with something that seems to be a positive thing.
Who knows? Maybe someday their organization will grow into something larger and eventually become a "real" GLO. Or maybe it won't. Either way it might still give some college students some great memories of spending time playing and working with friends to look back on.

aenik240 · #9 10-18-2002, 06:23 PM

You people all seem to be so against this, but how is this any different from from all of our founding fathers/sisters? Though these organizations might now fit the mold of other greek organizations, they are in all regards practically the same thing as any other fraternity or sorority was at its inception. Take my fraternity, TKE, back in 1899, it was just a small group of college students saying they wanted to start a fraternity. Is there anything more legitimate about that than what these people are doing now. Though time and duration are the great legitimizer, we should not forget our own roots - that these people have a sense of humor about it does not make them any different.

aenik

Kevin · #10 10-18-2002, 06:37 PM

aenik, while I agree with you on your points there and am already on the record in this thread as seeing many parallels between locals and these groups I also have to call to question their referring to themselves as fake greeks as they do in the article.

If they in fact do this they are absolutely not what anyone's founding fathers did. What they did was real. They said they were starting something and what they started has stood the test of time. If you refer to yourself as a 'fake greek' you have no clue what being greek really means.

DGWannabe · #11 10-18-2002, 08:09 PM

It's not really that bad. I just don't understand calling yourself fake, it's bad enought when someone else does it!

ALthough, I know plenty of people who, when finding out I was in a sorority, were like "You? But you're so smart!" And when people find out I still do things with my old chapter they are like "When are you going to grow up?" There is a large segment of people who just don't understand. To some people being Greek is a stigma, on other campus, if you're not Greek it's a stigma. Maybe where they go to school it's not cool to be greek or something so this is there way of doing it. There was a post on here not long ago (I forget where) about how the band sorority made fun of a girls for being in a NPC sorority-so she quit the NPC one.So, I guess it's different on every campus.

Blaire · #12 10-18-2002, 08:31 PM

How is this for weird? The local sorority at my campus, MTSU, is also called Phi Chi. However, they do a lot for our campus and greek life in general! They are a great group of girls!

I have to agree with ktsnake...while our founders did start out *sorta* like these "fake greeks" did, they actually stood for something. To classify yourself as fake right out of the gate is just ASKING for trouble!

Blaire

ps at APSU, a college here in my hometown, some non-trational students started Tau Delta Beta=Too Darn Busy! They were actually pretty cool about the whole thing, though...they said that they respected the "real greeks" and regretted not joining a fraternity/sorority when they were first in college. Very amusing (in a good way!)

texas*princess · #13 10-18-2002, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aenik240
You people all seem to be so against this, but how is this any different from from all of our founding fathers/sisters? Though these organizations might now fit the mold of other greek organizations, they are in all regards practically the same thing as any other fraternity or sorority was at its inception. Take my fraternity, TKE, back in 1899, it was just a small group of college students saying they wanted to start a fraternity. Is there anything more legitimate about that than what these people are doing now. Though time and duration are the great legitimizer, we should not forget our own roots - that these people have a sense of humor about it does not make them any different.

aenik

I have to agree with aenik. I guess way back then (for the fraternities and sororities that were founded in the 1800's and early 1900's), it's about the same.. they just didn't have any other "real" Greeks around at the time to call themselves fake

And ultimately those groups founded way back then evolved to something bigger. ::shrugs:: but that's just my take on it

MTSUGURL · #14 10-19-2002, 12:08 AM

Oh wow.

I agree with Blaire. The Phi Chi's at our school are awesome girls!

DRau · #15 10-19-2002, 01:50 AM

did anyone else notice that 'making t-shirts' was mentioned about 7 or 8 times in that article????? Like that legitamizes the activity?