How do you feel when people who are not in your Frat/Sor. wear your letters?

prophet · #1 07-12-2002, 04:05 PM

I hate

when people not in my fraternity wear my letters, sweet hearts! I never seen males wear my letters if they are not in the fraternity but girls I have

If you did not pledge my fraternity and work for them, you should not wear em'. The only reason I see chapters of any fraternity let-ing girls wear their letters, is because they use this as a way of showing off to others, that girls like them. HAHAHAHA>That's wack! Girls wear the letters, thinking their some thing special....hahaha>That's wack! People who do this, come on....you don't look like a pimp and you don't mean anything special to the fraternity as a whole. If anything, chapters should make sweaters with their chapter names on em'> That's cool...it shows that the girl is important to the chapter. I'm a bring it up to my chapter, damn I'm creative. We never had sweet hearts, because we don't believe in having people not in our fraternity wearing our letters.
-Heath
[B][COLOR=red][SIZE=7]FKT[SIZE]-[SIZE=4]EPSILON THETA chapter SFSU

chiobabe01 · #2 07-12-2002, 04:31 PM

I am not quite sure how GLO's work at your school but at my school and most of the schools in Texas there is a valid reason for having a girl wear a frat's letters (and vis versa), that reason mostly has to do with rush. I know that alot of non-greek guys in my classes have asked me about a fraternity when I wear their letters. I don't ever do anything disrespectful in their letters and I don't think it takes away from the merrit of earning your letters. All it is, is good PR! If you are truely offended so be it, I don't thing that any woman would want to represent a fraternity that didn't deam them worthy enough to wear their letters, it's really your loss (not ours).

Kevin · #3 07-12-2002, 04:36 PM

I'll second that. Women are much better at getting guys interested in rushing than posters are

chiobabe01 · #4 07-12-2002, 04:41 PM

I'm curious Heath hw well do you guys do during rush period and how do you design mixer shirts

douthit · #5 07-12-2002, 05:22 PM

This type of thing doesn't happen very often at our school, but I have an example of something similar. Last summer at our Grand Convention, we were all given commemorative t-shirts that had our letters and a picture of the Alamo (it was in San Antonio) among other things. A couple of the girls that we partied with down there asked if they could take a couple of the shirts back home to wear, and we said okay since we figured it would be another way to get word of Phi Sig out in the public. And they would be seen by more people down in Texas than in Montana

h2oot · #6 07-12-2002, 05:40 PM

I don't see much, if any, where non-members where others greek letters except for T-shirts from a sorority/fraternity function where they attended.

prophet · #7 07-12-2002, 06:17 PM

We do great, we have mad rush events 2-3 a week. As Rush chair I make sure we have 2-3 a week, and under $800.00. They are hella fun, you should come to some during rush week at SFSU

We have some fine women who come out and support us, such as A-Phi, Phi Sig, Phi Chi, Doxs,etc. I do understand logic: where there are women-there are men, and vice versa. We are either largest or second largest fraternity on campus with many, many, many,many, other fraternities on campus. to many to count. We do great! Now, do not get me wrong, I like having shirts with greeks together on it; so, if FKT and FSS were on a mixer shirt, that's

and I'm

But, no solid FKT letters on a shirt on a non-member!
-HEATH

Rio_Kohitsuji · #8 07-12-2002, 06:51 PM

Okay, guess what honey, I'm a TKE Sweetheart, and I'm damn proud to wear my man's letters. The meaning behind a sweetheart wearing the letters is that he is putting her up to the same (and even more) importance than the fraternity, she has become equal. I will agree that I have gotten upset when others have thrown around their letters without regard to whom. Especially to other women who totally do not understand and importance of the fraternity's letters. I've ended up becoming close friends with my boyfriends (future fiance) brothers, in fact, when he told them of his desision of pinning me they were all excited and happy with it. So, I'm sorry if you do not want to 'share' your letters with who you love, you're missing a whole different experience. Also, do not think that just because the member of the opposite sex that just so happens is wearing your letters is a bad idea. Learn a bit more before assuming anything.

Kevin · #9 07-12-2002, 07:17 PM

I think we all have different values assigned to our letters.

For me, the letters are a physical representation of something. Like a cross is to Christianity. By looking at someone wearing a cross you know they are probably a Christian, but if you're not you probably don't have a really good understanding of what that means to them.

For me, I believe and value what my letters mean to me. Not they physical representation. That's like our brand, our trademark.

As long as it's not another guy (wouldn't want some other fella to try to pass himself off as a brother when he's not) I see no problem with it. If it's a woman, I think it's great. When a woman wears your letter just make sure that she knows what they mean to you and that it's something sacred.

The best way I can draw the picture is this:

Christians worship Christ, not the cross.
I believe in what my letters mean... NOT the physical representation.

FuzzieAlum · #10 07-12-2002, 07:51 PM

And different groups feel differently, too. Look at Fiji - no one but a brother can use their Greek letters. Girls get "Fiji" lavaliers. But right next door the ZBTs give girls "ZBT" lavaliers.

ThielGirlie · #11 07-12-2002, 08:01 PM

At my school you have to be Lavaliered or a sweetheart/MOTY to wear another gender's letters. You don't even think of putting on your boyfriend's letter sweater just because you're cold or something. It's a huge respect thing at my school. Grant it, there are probably people that bend the rules, but they're probably in orgs I don't hang around.

chiobabe01 · #12 07-13-2002, 10:02 AM

I agree w/ ktsnake, I think that your letters are a representation of who you are as a GLO, I still don't understand the respect aspect of what some people are talking about

, but I really have to say that if you don't want anybody but your brothers to represent your frat. I guess that is your own deal. This is just FYI but I was dating this guy and were kind of serious. He took me to my first Chi O formal and I got him a shirt. When we broke up he still wore his shirt out and about. Since then he has been approached by three incoming freshman inquiring about chi omega (since he is not in a GLO he didn't know very much) regardless of anything that was giving chi o PR and I really don't mind

Heath I would love to come visit but unfortunately I am assistant rush chair and I can't go anywher but, I am sure that your rush events are hella fun

most frats rush events are.

prophet · #13 07-14-2002, 03:18 AM

come on, you are just like the girls I dis-like! All you are wearing TKE letters for is to show his brothers, your as important and a little more. You have a relationship problem, don't you? Must, if that is how he shows you love; and must if you take it like that. Are you in a sorority? If so, you really have a problem if your screen name is after TKE and not your own sorority. If your not a sorority girl, which I could see possible, no wonder why you believe that to be true of a sweetheart. I could see why you have to floss your mans letters, and go around claiming a sweetheart like that, that you believe, "The meaning behind a sweetheart wearing the letters is that he is putting her up to the same (and even more) importance than the fraternity, she has become equal"(TKE209sweethrt). it is to show other girls he loves you. You must be a youngster, but you will grow up. This may sound alittle weird to come from me, but I think girlfriends who are liked by whole chapter should wear chapter letters on sweater or even fraternity letters; however only if the whole chapter likes the girl. "...I'm sorry if you do not want to 'share' your letters with who you love, you're missing a whole different experience"(TKE209sweethrt). Just to let you know about that comment, I have been with my girlfriend for 5years and have spent amazing times together without her wearing my letters before and after joing my fraternity. To say I am missing a whole different experience, hahahaha, not really....I would be if I was not living with her; if you know what I mean

. Oh, and before I leave, "...Learn a bit more before assuming anything"(TKE209sweethrt). about that dumb comment, "....learn a bit...." you a fool. I am one of the most respected brothers in my fraternity; let me tell you why, 2-time big brother in just a year, Rush Chair getting chapter biggest pledge class in Spring term, Fsc rep for year, Fsc par/v.p., Amoo pledge fathers right hand man next term-fall. I know everything about my fraternity and its belief. Our chapters do, do things differently-yes; some let their sweethearts wear letters, but not ones who do it to say, "The meaning behind a sweetheart wearing the letters is that he is putting her up to the same (and even more) importance than the fraternity, she has become equal."(TKE209sweethrt). So, you may want to tell your man's chapter who probably said it was cool for you to be a sweet heart because of your love for their brother, "learn a bit more before assuming anything"(TKE209sweethrt).
-HEATH
P.S.
I am only being true with you.

BabyAPhi · #14 07-14-2002, 03:32 AM

I think that wearing your boyfriends letters is just plain stupid. Why is it such a big deal to wear them? whoopty whoo yay I am wearing his letters. Who really gives a damn but yourself. My boyfriend has his own letters and I have mine why would I even wear them? Just to show me that he loves me. I already know that and I don't need him to let me wear his letters to show every one that, "Oh he really loves me now cause he let me wears his letters." WHO CARES!!

Wendy

SilverTurtle · #15 07-14-2002, 02:32 PM

People didn't wear their boyfriends/girlfriend's letters on my campus "just because". There were 2 instances where you would see non-members in letters:

#1 Chapter sweethearts and/or Lil' Bros/Sis. They were given a sweatshirt with letters on the front and then the back had the title (Sweetheart, Lil' Brother, etc.) sewn on.

#2 "Switch days"- each fraternity & sorority would have mixers called "switches" for their new members. The following day, the new members would wear the other GLOs shirts, jackets, etc.

Otherwise, "pinning" & "lavalering" just didn't happen on my campus. Well, except for ONE guy (a Phi Mu Alpha) who pinned his girlfriend. But that's it out of the whole system while I was there.