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05-05-2008, 09:12 AM
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Schools with most inactive NPC chapters
I thought it would be interesting to see which institutions have the most inactive NPC chapters. The information below is very revealing. There are 32 schools with 6 to 13 inactive NPC groups. Several actually have more inactive than active!
An asterisk indicates that a colony exisits, or will be this fall, and the number will reduce by one when it is installed.
U. C. L. A. 13 inactive, 11 active
Syracuse 13 inactive, 12 active
U Minnesota 12 inactive, 9 active
Louisiana State 11 inactive, 10 active
U. Michigan 10 inactive, 13 active **
Ohio State 10 inactive, 14 active
U. Oregon 10 inactive, 8 active
U. Pennsylvania 10 inactive, 8 active
U. Wisconsin 10 inactive, 11 active
U. California 9 inactive, 12 active
U. Colorado 9 inactive, 9 active
Ohio U. 9 inactive, 9 active
U. Oklahoma 9 inactive, 11 active
U. Southern California 9 inactive, 11 active
U. Missouri 8 inactive, 13 active
U. South Carolina 8 inactive, 9 active
Arizona State U. 7 inactive, 11 active **
Boston U. 7 inactive, 8 active
Florida State 7 inactive, 15 active
Michigan State 7 inactive, 13 active
Oregon State 7 inactive, 10 active
U. Texas 7 inactive, 14 active
West Virginia U. 7 inactive, 8 active
U. Alabama 6 inactive, 15 active **
U. Arizona 6 inactive, 11 active **
U. Illinois 6 inactive, 19 active **
U. Iowa 6 inactive, 14 active
Kansas U. 6 inactive, 13 active
U. Maryland 6 inactive, 14 active
Miami U. 6 inactive, 17 active **
Northwestern U. 6 inactive, 12 active
U. Pittsburgh 6 inactive, 11 active
Unfortunately, the cost to revive chapters at most of these institutions is very expensive, even when the opportunity arises. Some groups have determined that several chapters could be created at less competitive schools for the same cost and effort than at these major schools.
The sororities and number of inactive chapters at the above institutions are as follows:
19 Alpha Xi Delta (1 colony)
17 Alpha Epsilon Phi (3 colonies)
17 Alpha Omicron Pi
17 Phi Mu
17 Zeta Tau Alpha
16 Alpha Gamma Delta
15 Delta Zeta
15 Sigma Kappa
14 Sigma Delta Tau
13 Alpha Delta Pi (1 colony)
13 Delta Phi Epsilon
12 Kappa Delta
12 Phi Sigma Sigma
12 Theta Phi Alpha
8 Alpha Sigma Alpha
7 Gamma Phi Beta
7 Sigma Sigma Sigma
6 Pi Beta Phi
5 Delta Delta Delta
4 Alpha Phi (1 colony)
4 Chi Omega
3 Delta Gamma
3 Kappa Alpha Theta
3 Kappa Kappa Gamma
2 Alpha Chi Omega
2 Alpha Sigma Tau
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05-05-2008, 09:16 AM
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Unfortunately, the cost to revive chapters at most of these institutions is very expensive, even when the opportunity arises. Some groups have determined that several chapters could be created at less competitive schools for the same cost and effort than at these major schools.
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Did they tell you this personally???
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05-05-2008, 09:27 AM
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What about Southern Methodist University? I think they have something like 9 inactive chapters.
Also, I think it is somewhat meaningful to look at when the chapters closed. Were they recent or were they during WW2 or the laste 60s?
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05-05-2008, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses
What about Southern Methodist University? I think they have something like 9 inactive chapters.
Also, I think it is somewhat meaningful to look at when the chapters closed. Were they recent or were they during WW2 or the laste 60s?
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When the expansion thread said that Bucknell in PA was open for expansion, I checked irish pipes' thread. It showed that Bucknell has 6 active and 8 inactive chapters. (Not sure, oldu, what university criteria you must have used to limit your list?)
I agree with ForeverRoses' comment re: the significance of timing on the chpater closings. Admittedly, I know very little about the colonization process. I would be skittish, however, to pursue colonization on a campus where the "survival rate" of NPC sororities is less than 50%. At Bucknell, TriDelta just closed a single letter chapter in 2003 that had been in existence since 1904. It brings up all those questions re: when a campus is ready for expansion.
It was interesting to go back and look at the issues discussed in this thread on When Is It a Good Idea for Campus Panhel Expansion:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ight=expansion
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05-05-2008, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by wildcatfan
I agree with ForeverRoses' comment re: the significance of timing on the chpater closings. Admittedly, I know very little about the colonization process. I would be skittish, however, to pursue colonization on a campus where the "survival rate" of NPC sororities is less than 50%. At Bucknell, TriDelta just closed a single letter chapter in 2003 that had been in existence since 1904. It brings up all those questions re: when a campus is ready for expansion.
It was interesting to go back and look at the issues discussed in this thread on When Is It a Good Idea for Campus Panhel Expansion:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ight=expansion
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I don't think Tri Delta closed at Bucknell for numbers-related reasons.
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05-05-2008, 10:54 AM
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Primarilly I took the largest Greek systems. Otherwise the list would be very very long. I have a good friend who is president of her sorority's foundation and she told me it is a big internal struggle for groups when a large prestigous institution like Illinois or Alabama opens for expansion and the debate begins as to how much the sorority wants to gamble in time and funds to develop a chapter there as opposed to a school where housing is less important and the competition is less. Her foundation is one of the largest and she told me that they had turned down opportunities to revive some lost chapters because they could not justify the investment required and the risk to be taken, much to the disappointment of many alumnae.
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05-05-2008, 09:52 AM
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Did they tell you this personally??? 
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My reaction EXACTLY.
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05-05-2008, 09:48 AM
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The information below is very revealing.
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I'm not sure what it reveals. Can you explain?
Schools with more chapters are bound to have more inactive chapters. A school, such as Mizzou, with 8 inactive chapters, yet 13 active chapters is a bit different than one that didn't make your list, like Bucknell, with 8 inactive chapters but only 6 active chapters.
I would agree that it is hard to recolonize a chapter at some of these schools because housing or land for a new chapter is not always available due to zoning laws even if the sorority's HQ could finance it.
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05-05-2008, 12:02 PM
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4 Chi Omega
3 Delta Gamma
3 Kappa Alpha Theta
3 Kappa Kappa Gamma
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Oldu: "Oh, no! Really? Well, at least they're at the bottom of the list. Hmm, maybe if I choose different campuses I can get those numbers down a bit. Darn it!"
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05-05-2008, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne
Oldu: "Oh, no! Really? Well, at least they're at the bottom of the list. Hmm, maybe if I choose different campuses I can get those numbers down a bit. Darn it!"
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L. O. L. O. L. O. L.
Exactly.
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05-05-2008, 12:19 PM
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Old u I like your stats...keep them up!
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Originally Posted by oldu
An asterisk indicates that a colony exisits, or will be this fall, and the number will reduce by one when it is installed.
U. Alabama 6 inactive, 15 active **
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In a few years this will be 4 inactive and 17 active after Alpha Phi and DG colonize. That is if all our current chapters stay active.
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05-05-2008, 12:24 PM
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I always knew that there were tiers among sororites at my school but I never knew there were national tiers until I started seeing these threads and some of the self-important comments within it. Seriously though? Some of you really care which sororities are the strongest nationally? It just seems like a way for grown adults to wield a big stick long after graduation which I personally find sad.
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05-05-2008, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ZTAngel
I always knew that there were tiers among sororites at my school but I never knew there were national tiers until I started seeing these threads and some of the self-important comments within it. Seriously though? Some of you really care which sororities are the strongest nationally? It just seems like a way for grown adults to wield a big stick long after graduation which I personally find sad.
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Maybe the lack of a big stick is the issue.
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05-05-2008, 01:07 PM
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My question would be this: Do these statistics show "new" chapters among the statistics.
What I mean is that when I return to Ohio University, there are some houses that weren't there when I was a student way back when.
So, do the statistice identify new groups that have failed as well as more established ones?
There can be a number of reasons for a chapters failure -- not always having to do with relative strength of the system as a whole on campus.
Specifically, in terms of OU, the "new" president (of about three years) is a BGLO member, whereas the former president was not particularly supportive of GLO's.
Also, when was the list compiled.
Here's a link to a list of active GLO's and Colonies at Ohio:
http://www.ohio.edu/campuslife/greek/chapters.cfm
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05-06-2008, 06:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZTAngel
I always knew that there were tiers among sororites at my school but I never knew there were national tiers until I started seeing these threads and some of the self-important comments within it. Seriously though? Some of you really care which sororities are the strongest nationally? It just seems like a way for grown adults to wield a big stick long after graduation which I personally find sad.
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Agreed. The implication/suggestion of international tiers with the stats and commentary is what makes people angry. It's "tent talk" on an international level, and it contributes to why certain NPCs are invited to present/colonize at certain campuses.
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