APhiO not real greeks?

[somethinstupid]

SIUE is re-activating an Alpha Phi Omega chapter. I heard from other chapters that APO is not recognized as a Greek Organization, i.e. they don't participate in Greek Week.
Why?

[33girl]

Alpha Phi Omega is a national co-ed service fraternity. It has social aspects but the main and primary focus is SERVICE. According to APO's national bylaws, a chapter may not operate or inhabit a fraternity house, and a chapter shall not seek membership in an association consisting solely of social fraternities.

Also, you can belong to APO and a social fraternity or sorority at the same time.

[pirate00]

Sure, we (Alpha Phi Omega) do not belong to IFC's, have houses, or participate in Greek Week. No service GLO's do. But for APO, there are deeper meanings for not adopting certain principles social GLO's. I quote from our fraternity website at www.apo.org/ :
"Without constant reminders, teaching, help and advice, even the best of us lose sight of our larger goals. We become introverted, concentrated on our own selfish ends, forgetful that we come this way but once and that our challenge is to serve others. This is why conventions have to deal repeatedly with memberships in IFC's, questions of housing, violations of the dignity of individuals through hazing practices, and the lure of social status and personal indulgence through primary emphasis upon social programs. Without some structure to keep us focused on our purposes we would quickly lose our way in an envious and competitive world. We would soon disappear.

[pirate00]

And for the record, we ARE real greeks!!!

[shadokat]

As 33girl said, Alpha Phi Omega is a service fraternity. On our campus, they did not participate in anything that the social organizations did. That doesn't mean they aren't greek, but they aren't part of the social greek system. I've never heard of them even mixing with social GLOs. Although I think I read about a party of theirs that got busted by the cops. So much for all that purpose pirate.

[pirate00]

Originally posted by shadokat:
[. Although I think I read about a party of theirs that got busted by the cops. So much for all that purpose pirate. [/B]

What's that supposed to mean? You "THINK" you read about that somewhere. Do you even know where this alleged incident occured? Whether it occured or not, there will always be isoltated inicdents within any GLO. Nobody is perfect yet we strive to meet our ideals to the letter. Alpha Phi Omega has set the standard for campus-based voulunteerism for over 75 years, and it will not take cheap shots from those who are misinformed about its purposes.

[somethinstupid]

Originally posted by shadokat:
As 33girl said, Alpha Phi Omega is a service fraternity. On our campus, they did not participate in anything that the social organizations did. That doesn't mean they aren't greek, but they aren't part of the social greek system. I've never heard of them even mixing with social GLOs. Although I think I read about a party of theirs that got busted by the cops. So much for all that purpose pirate.

We have at least six social sorority girls in APO. So the 2 do mix.

Oh oh! An APO party got busted by the cops?
Was it the one in Truman State in MO?

[shadokat]

pirate, my comment was only a joke. sorry to offend, although I did hear of an APO party getting busted a couple years ago.

As for my campus, all I meant was that APO did not mix with the social frats or sororities.

[Rain Man]

Originally posted by pirate00:
And for the record, we ARE real greeks!!!

Pirate, you wanna see a website where Alpha Phi Omega represents the frat like REAL GREEKS (and recognizes Gamma Sigma Sigma as REAL SISTERS??!!!

CHECK THIS SITE OUT!!!!

members.tripod.com/~APQGSS

It is the BOMB!!!
Lemme know what you think.

Match Game '73

[pirate00]

Originally posted by Rain Man:
Pirate, you wanna see a website where Alpha Phi Omega represents the frat like REAL GREEKS (and recognizes Gamma Sigma Sigma as REAL SISTERS??!!!

CHECK THIS SITE OUT!!!!

members.tripod.com/~APQGSS

It is the BOMB!!!
Lemme know what you think.

Match Game '73

Yeah, Rain Man. I've seen that site before. I try to visit it often. '25/'52 Family for life!!!

[pirate00]

Originally posted by shadokat:
pirate, my comment was only a joke. sorry to offend, although I did hear of an APO party getting busted a couple years ago.

As for my campus, all I meant was that APO did not mix with the social frats or sororities.

Oh, I'm sorry for coming down on ya like that. i get kind of hot-tempered when allegations get out of hand. I am very proud of my fraternity and the work it does. There's something special about APO because HUMANITY IS OUR PHILANTHROPY!!!

[pbear19]

Originally posted by somethinstupid:
Oh oh! An APO party got busted by the cops?
Was it the one in Truman State in MO?

Just to defend those guys, the "APO" party was not official. Although the house that the party was at is a traditionally APO house, it was never officially referred to as such, and many, many of the people who went there had nothing to do with APO. They got in a lot of trouble about it though, and no longer have any parties that I know of, unofficial or otherwise. (Unless it's a formal or date party with a vendor and whatnot.)

[33girl]

Originally posted by somethinstupid:
We have at least six social sorority girls in APO. So the 2 do mix.

What shadokat meant was that APO does not have "mixers" with the social fraternities or sororities. (You might call them TG's or socials or swaps in your neck of the woods.)

[kdgirlie]

no offense pirate but I rarely hear of anything you guys do on Campus... I know a couple people in your org some are nice some not so much. One of the girls went after a bf of mine though and that sucked

[SilverTurtle]

My fraternity is classified as a professional GLO. On my campus we also had an APO chapter. I recall more than one mixer between our two chapters. They weren't treated exactly like "real" greeks (meaning the social GLOs), but they were considered part of the greek system. They were on the Greek Council as well. (I think this was okay because there were NO NPC or IFC chapters, and because there were 2 PFA chapters).

And as far as that particular chapter went, they held similar functions as the other greek chapters (from pledging to formals, in between their service ).

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