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Old 04-28-2010, 06:14 PM
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Harvard email on race goes viral

Every time you put something into an email, please remember that someone you send it to may hit Forward. If your email makes the case for a biological reason for racial disparities in intelligence, someone might hit Forward and send it to Black Law Student Associations across the nation.

That’s what happened to a Harvard 3L yesterday. We’ll call this 3L CRIMSON DNA. According to our sources, DNA made some controversial comments about race at a dinner held by the school’s Federalist Society. CORRECTION: This dinner was not an official Fed Soc dinner. [FN1]

After the dinner, DNA felt the need to send an email to a few friends clarifying those views. Here’s an excerpt:

I absolutely do not rule out the possibility that African Americans are, on average, genetically predisposed to be less intelligent. I could also obviously be convinced that by controlling for the right variables, we would see that they are, in fact, as intelligent as white people under the same circumstances. The fact is, some things are genetic. African Americans tend to have darker skin. Irish people are more likely to have red hair.
One of the 3Ls to receive that email, available in full after the jump, was very upset by it. We’ll call this student CRIMSON OUTRAGE. OUTRAGE arranged for the email to be sent out to the Harvard Black Law Student Association list-serv, including DNA’s name and the fact that after graduation, the author will be doing a federal clerkship.

After that, the email went viral, apparently circulating to BLSAs across the country. There are now plans to try to go after DNA’s clerkship….

UPDATE: We’ve added a statement from the president of the Harvard Federalist Society, after the jump.


We got the email multiple times last night, from lots of first-time tipsters horrified that a person at Harvard Law School with a federal clerkship offer in hand holds such views. The person sending out the email to the Harvard BLSA wrote:

I am saddened that a current HLS student holds such antagonistic and archaic views about our people and that the potential impact of her ignorance is only strengthened by her prestigious affiliations and credentials.



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Old 04-28-2010, 06:24 PM
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His viewpoints are what they are. That has been said by whites for over a century. Leonard Jeffries had a version of Blacks as sun people and whites as ice people. It's all the same kind of dumb, except the dumb of whites who believe such things (whites are the majority in power and population size) is more likely to transition from opinion and bigotry to discrimination.

It is inappropriate to go after his clerkship solely based on his personal opinions. Let him think what he wants and learn what everyone else knows, which is certain viewpoints are best left for certain environments.
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Old 04-28-2010, 06:32 PM
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Old 04-28-2010, 06:36 PM
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Ice People?
I'm lazy today, so here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Jeffries
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Old 04-28-2010, 06:59 PM
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His viewpoints are what they are. That has been said by whites for over a century. Leonard Jeffries had a version of Blacks as sun people and whites as ice people. It's all the same kind of dumb, except the dumb of whites who believe such things (whites are the majority in power and population size) is more likely to transition from opinion and bigotry to discrimination.

It is inappropriate to go after his clerkship solely based on his personal opinions. Let him think what he wants and learn what everyone else knows, which is certain viewpoints are best left for certain environments.
It says her in the end of the post. Apparently it's a woman. I agree on the later part. No need to go after her clerkship. Outing her as a bigot may take care of any of that on by itself.
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:02 PM
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It says her in the end of the post. Apparently it's a woman. I agree on the later part. No need to go after her clerkship. Outing her as a bigot may take care of any of that on by itself.
Outing her as a bigot is also dumb. She outed herself as a bigot. What's the point of forwarding the email?

If they had an issue with her bigotry via university email, they should have taken that up with Harvard. If the goal was "now what, bitch" then I guess they succeeded...in making themselves look like they need a hobby.
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:06 PM
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Outing her as a bigot is also dumb. She outed herself as a bigot. What's the point of forwarding the email?

If they had an issue with her bigotry via university email, they should have taken that up with Harvard. If the goal was "now what, bitch" then I guess they succeeded...in making themselves look like they need a hobby.
Did she out herself? Just to one person. That person outed her to everyone else. The thing about lawyers with federal clerkships...they usually have aspirations for public office. This will come back to haunt her someday. That's likely the reason what the goal of the outing was.
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:19 PM
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Did she out herself? Just to one person.
Yeah, you out yourself anytime you share an opinion that you know is an unpopular and widely held as offensive.

Lesson learned on her part. She didn't even wait until she got her bigtime career started for this to happen.
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:21 PM
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Yeah, you out yourself anytime you share an opinion that you know is an unpopular and widely held as offensive.

Lesson learned on her part. She didn't even wait until she got her bigtime career started for this to happen.
Yep. Three years of expensive Harvard Law School education...well, I won't say down the drain, but she may not get to have the future she thought she'd have.
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Old 04-28-2010, 08:56 PM
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She does realize that the same things that she suggested about black people have also been suggested about women, right?

Is she the kind of dummy they are letting into Harvard these days?
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:46 PM
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Sun People? Ice People?

I just have to get this earworm out of my head:

Ice, ice, baby.

Thank you.

(Actually, "Heat Miser/Snow Miser" might be more appropriate . . .)

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Old 04-29-2010, 09:00 AM
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I just have to get this earworm out of my head:

Ice, ice, baby.

Thank you.

(Actually, "Heat Miser/Snow Miser" might be more appropriate . . .)

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Old 04-29-2010, 01:34 PM
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You can suggest anything about anyone. Sometimes it is right and sometimes it isn't.

The Harvard student is actually right. The test scores prove she is right. If blacks and whites both take the same tests and the whites consistently outperform the blacks then the results say it all.

The bros will try to cry racism because that is their excuse for everything. The funny thing is foreign born blacks outperform American blacks too. Two thirds of the blacks at Harvard are foreigners. Think about that. Blacks that gets off the boat with limited language skills are outperforming American blacks.

American blacks either don't have the brain capacity or they don't give the effort. Either way they are at the bottom when it comes to education.

America needs to wake up and smell the niggers.
Test scores don't prove ability, only the info that one has committed to memory. Surely you know this but then again, bigots are usually quite dumb.
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Old 04-29-2010, 01:40 PM
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Test scores don't prove ability, only the info that one has committed to memory.
Not really true. There are tests that have very little to do with memory.

But, why are you replying to that troll?
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Old 04-29-2010, 01:47 PM
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remember the informantion are they both equal?
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