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Old 06-11-2009, 06:07 PM
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Special Olympics aims at ending the derogatory use of the "r-word"

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[Special Olympics is calling] to Americans to recognize and rethink their use of the word "retard," or as the organization would prefer, the "R-word."

"Most people don't think of this word as hate speech, but that's exactly what it feels like to millions of people with intellectual disabilities, their families and friends," a statement about the campaign reads. "This word is just as cruel and offensive as any other slur."

The push for increased respect is being spearheaded by young people who are collecting pledges or vows to not use the word athttp://www.r-word.org/, and are leading online discussions on how people can get involved in this cause.
Thoughts? Are you guys "r-word" abusers? Any of you volunteer with Special Olympics, or have family members or friends with intellectual disabilities?
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:15 PM
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I used to let this word slip all the time. Now, I'd say I use it infrequently, but unfortunately I don't flinch when I hear myself say it the same way I would if I called something "gay" in association with negativity. I know people are sick of having to tiptoe around to keep from hurting everyone's feelings, but this is definitely a touchy subject, and I would never want to inadvertently hurt someone I care about by speaking without thinking.
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:32 PM
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My nephew is developmentally delayed, so the r-word has definitely become highly offensive in our family. I warn others to never use it around us and or else the fam will look at you like you just swore very loudly. I never say it unless I'm at work and using it in a clinical sense.
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:40 PM
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I'm a pre-k special education assistant. Since I started my job in Fall 2007, I've definitely noticed the use of the word more. I guess it used to not phase me the way other words did, but now it's definitely one of those words. I also recently learned that the origins of the word "spaz," as in, "Oh my god, she's such a spaz," refer to people with Cerebral Palsy (because of their muscle spasms and uncontrolled tension). I don't really use "spaz" anymore. One of my favorite people in the world has CP.
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Old 06-12-2009, 02:35 AM
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I also recently learned that the origins of the word "spaz," as in, "Oh my god, she's such a spaz," refer to people with Cerebral Palsy (because of their muscle spasms and uncontrolled tension). I don't really use "spaz" anymore. One of my favorite people in the world has CP.
When my sister and I found out that the term "gypped" refers to gypsies, who were often unfairly stereotyped as cheaters and thieves, we stopped using that word as well.
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Old 06-13-2009, 11:23 AM
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When my sister and I found out that the term "gypped" refers to gypsies, who were often unfairly stereotyped as cheaters and thieves, we stopped using that word as well.
That's fine and dandy that you say that, but EVERY instance I've had with gypsies in Europe has been a negative one - seeing them pickpocket, etc...There was also an article in either Time or Newsweek a long while ago where they interviewed a bunch of gypsies who openly stated they didn't work because it was more honorable to stealand beg from people than work.

As for the r word, yes I've used it, most people have. I stopped a long time ago though as I think it's not a good expression, there are much more apt expressions when dealing with those who are idiots....well, with the exception of the thread on here recently with the guy peddling online cremation or whatever it was.
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Old 06-13-2009, 12:19 PM
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Many derogatory words as someone pointed out earlier, have taken on secondary meanings. It is called the evolution of language. You can not stop it. Words take on new meanings all the time. You don't have to like it, but most people already speak (especially when speaking casually) before they have a chance to register what they are going to say. Hence, "retarded" would not be used in a formal speech, neither would "gay", but you'll find them in casual and everyday conversation. There is no movement that will stop the natural progression of language, so I think they are going to have to go on being offended.

As a black person, I've learned to just get used to many hispanics and whites saying "nigga" on casual basis when meeting friends. No one has ever in my life (to my knowledge) used it in offense towards me. I do notice it all the time in my head and it does make me stop and think for a second, but I don't get offended about it and give them a lecture. What is the point?
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:10 AM
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That's fine and dandy that you say that, but EVERY instance I've had with gypsies in Europe has been a negative one - seeing them pickpocket, etc...There was also an article in either Time or Newsweek a long while ago where they interviewed a bunch of gypsies who openly stated they didn't work because it was more honorable to stealand beg from people than work.
And I almost had to cuss out a Gypsy woman selling roses in Manhattan who thought it was okay to blow cigarette smoke in our faces.

These people are a relatively small percentage of the world's population of Gypsies. The stereotype has taken over because most people will never interact with a substantial portion of Gypsies. That includes that potentially nonrepresentative group for Newsweek's interview.

I stopped saying "gyped" years ago and I compare it to people saying "jew me."

I don't say "retard" unless I'm actually talking about someone who is "mentally retarded." I will keep saying "mentally retarded" for people who are medically considered "mentally retarded." That isn't an insult or a stereotype. As KSig said, it is accurate and well-documented.

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Old 06-15-2009, 12:49 AM
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When my sister and I found out that the term "gypped" refers to gypsies, who were often unfairly stereotyped as cheaters and thieves, we stopped using that word as well.
Here's another one for you....

Okay, Greece is called "Hellas" in Greek, hence the term "Hellenic" to refer to things Greek.

I recently went to a concert at our local "Hellenic Community Centre", (formerly the Greek Community Centre). I asked my Greek friend about it and she said that "Greek" actually comes from a Turkish word meaning "slave"! I was

So I wouldn't be surprised if we see that change over time as well.
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Old 06-15-2009, 07:27 AM
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Here's another one for you....

Okay, Greece is called "Hellas" in Greek, hence the term "Hellenic" to refer to things Greek.

I recently went to a concert at our local "Hellenic Community Centre", (formerly the Greek Community Centre). I asked my Greek friend about it and she said that "Greek" actually comes from a Turkish word meaning "slave"! I was

So I wouldn't be surprised if we see that change over time as well.
The word "Greek" isn't changing at this stage of the game.

And your friend was wrong -- "Greek" comes the name of a tribe or group of people (the Graikos) that once lived in what is now Greece but migrated to what is now Italy and were called (in Latin) Graecus.
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:51 PM
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There is a certain University in Texas whose fan base likes to call one of their rival’s tards. Normally I’d just shrug it off but this same fan base likes to proclaim themselves as one of the classiest programs in their conference. I wish they’d eliminate the nickname from their vernacular. I cringe every time I hear someone say it without a second thought.

For the record I used to be a pretty big offender of using the r-word. But after doing JOH and active involvement with Push America I can’t recall the last time I used it.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:22 PM
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Here's the problem with the "r-word" - unlike racial slurs, which have basically no other meaning besides the hurtful and purely racial motivation, "retarded" is essentially accurate. That is to say, the mentally handicapped do indeed have developmental retardation.

It may still be hurtful to the developmentally disabled, but it's nowhere near the use of "gay" to mean "lame" in terms of the damage done. Now, should kids calling each other "retarded" morph from "dumb" or "silly" to something akin to "worthless" or something more worthy of derision, then I'll be all for eliminating it.

With that said, I do go out of my way to attempt to not use the term in public, or around those who have close ties to special needs individuals - so yeah, it seems like an odd case to me, where it's still "bad" but not on the level of slurs based on race, gender or sexual orientation. Strange how the denotation/connotation divide can exist, but it really does for me.

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Old 06-12-2009, 02:50 AM
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I applaud them for what they're trying to do (one of my teachers growing up had a mentally handicapped son, so I don't use the term anyway), but I don't really see it going anywhere. This is the same thing that the NAACP tried to do with the N word, but the use of that hasn't changed.
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Old 06-16-2009, 04:27 AM
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I applaud them for what they're trying to do (one of my teachers growing up had a mentally handicapped son, so I don't use the term anyway), but I don't really see it going anywhere. This is the same thing that the NAACP tried to do with the N word, but the use of that hasn't changed.
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Old 06-13-2009, 05:07 PM
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I'm a pediatrician. Dealing with developmentally delayed and mentally retarded (there's a difference) is a part of my job. When I'm at the hospital, writing a progress note in which I write "8 y/o patient with MR and quadraplegic spastic cerebral palsy with history of repeated hospitalizations for respiratory distress" is a medically accurate and relevant comment. I would be miffed if a patient's family resented me putting "MR" in my notes.

Given that, it's a part of my vocabulary. This isn't that big of deal to me. I'm with KSig on this one, it's an accurate statement when describing the afflicted. It's not the word that's offensive but tone and context, if said as a way to hurt someone, I might understand. I don't think it's offensive when said amongst friends either though.
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