Arnold Schwarzenegger signs bill SB777

[amanda6035]

oh my goodness.

"Mom and Dad" as well as "husband and wife" effectively have been banned from California schools under a bill signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who with his signature also ordered public schools to allow boys to use girls restrooms and locker rooms, and vice versa, if they choose.

"We are shocked and appalled that the governor has blatantly attacked traditional family values in California," said Karen England, executive director of Capitol Resource Institute.

"With this decision, Gov. Schwarzenegger has told parents that their values are irrelevant. Many parents will have no choice but to pull their children out of the public schools that have now become sexualized indoctrination centers."

"Arnold Schwarzenegger has delivered young children into the hands of those who will introduce them to alternative sexual lifestyles," said Randy Thomasson, president of Campaign for Children and Families, which worked to defeat the plans. "This means children as young as five years old will be mentally molested in school classrooms.

"Shame on Schwarzenegger and the Democrat politicians for ensuring that every California school becomes a homosexual-bisexual-transsexual indoctrination center," he said.

Read the entire story here: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=58130



What a moron. I'm not knocking on gays, bi's or whatever. I just think the bill is absurd, because of the examples of the expected outcome - like with textbooks, etc...

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by amanda6035

oh my goodness.

Read the entire story here: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=58130

"...every California school becomes a homosexual-bisexual-transsexual indoctrination center," he said."

Ok, I think that might be just a SLIGHT overreaction, don't you think? And seeing where the article is posted, I'd say "consider the source" would be applicable. This site is just ever-so-slightly biased.

I saw the mark-up of the bill (SB777), it basically adds "sexual orientation" to the current discriminatory protections already in place for every other kind of "categorized" group there is. There is no "teaching agenda" in the legislation.

[Munchkin03]

Here's the actual, uh, bill:

http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bil...ntroduced.html

It sounds like everyone, at least from what I Googled, is getting a bit hysterical...

[Kevin]

The things which are being said remind me a lot about what people said during racial integration of the public school system.

I'm not trying to imply that the OP is the least bit biased as those words were not hers but an article she quoted.

[amanda6035]

Okay, so even if the source is a bit looney (I found it on another message board), I would really hope that banning the terms mom and dad, husband and wife, and letting little boys use the girls bathroom is not REALLY what's going to happen.

I'm all for equal opportunity. I'm all for gays and bis, and lesbians and transsexul, transgendered, and whatever else is out there having the same opportunity as the rest of us. But to take away the rights of those who DONT believe in that lifestyle is just pushing discrimination in the opposite direction. (I think the article said that somewhere....) Why cant there be a happy medium?

True, it must be alot like integration. I hope we as a society have learned from that experience. There's a big difference in sitting in the same classroom as a little black girl (or little white girl) and not being able to use terms like "mom and dad." Hell, doesnt California have a large spanish speaking population? Their inanimate objects have a GENDER to them - el and la, what's going to happen next? actually ban spanish from school because genders have a negative conotation for those of alternative lifestyle???? in CALIFORNIA??? yeah right.

[Kevin]

Amanda, I think whoever wrote that stuff is completely out to lunch. I can't see these statutes leading to the conclusions you propose.

[SHEETCAKE]

Originally Posted by amanda6035

Okay, so even if the source is a bit looney (I found it on another message board), I would really hope that banning the terms mom and dad, husband and wife, and letting little boys use the girls bathroom is not REALLY what's going to happen.

I'm all for equal opportunity. I'm all for gays and bis, and lesbians and transsexul, transgendered, and whatever else is out there having the same opportunity as the rest of us. But to take away the rights of those who DONT believe in that lifestyle is just pushing discrimination in the opposite direction. (I think the article said that somewhere....) Why cant there be a happy medium?

True, it must be alot like integration. I hope we as a society have learned from that experience. There's a big difference in sitting in the same classroom as a little black girl (or little white girl) and not being able to use terms like "mom and dad." Hell, doesnt California have a large spanish speaking population? Their inanimate objects have a GENDER to them - el and la, what's going to happen next? actually ban spanish from school because genders have a negative conotation for those of alternative lifestyle???? in CALIFORNIA??? yeah right.

When fascism comes to America....

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Amanda, I think whoever wrote that stuff is completely out to lunch. I can't see these statutes leading to the conclusions you propose.

They won't, but it's the ability of those out-to-lunchers to inflame panic like this that can in turn ensure that certain blocs of voters turn out in droves for elections, ala Karl Rove's success with putting the "marriage amendment" on the ballot in key states in the 2004 presidential election... frightening.

[DeltAlum]

...and one "giant leap" for...

The publishers of the article.

Talk about begging the question and glittering generalities.