9/11

[Tom Earp]

Sad that no one noticed


Bless those who lost thier lives.

[kathykd2005]

http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=90059

Someone DID notice... Did you notice that?

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Sad that no one noticed


Bless those who lost thier lives.

Thank you for you thoughts Tom.
However, thread was started in News section:
http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=90059

[REE1993]

Just because you didn't see a plethora of messages splattered all over a public forum does not mean that people did not remember or care. Not everyone "mourns" by wearing a flag pin, attending ceremonies, and declaring their "patriotism". For me, the most public displays feel the most hollow. If that's what you choose to do, then by all means do so.

I purposely kept away from the tv, radio, and news outlets today. Does that make me a bad American, or just an apethetic human being?

Let's not put expectations on how people should act, whether it's the day something happens, or 20 years later.

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by REE1993

I purposely kept away from the tv, radio, and news outlets today. Does that make me a bad American, or just an apethetic human being?

No. Neither.

We were chatting in our network control room today about the situation in New York City, where WABC-TV (Channel 7) had decided to carry the services from "Ground Zero," but not carry the reading of all of the names of the victims.

There was so much negativity, that the station caved in and carried the names.

Sorry if it's insensitive, but I don't see why five or six TV stations, along with several cable networks should all carry hours of reading of names. If a viewer really wants to see and hear that, they have many opportunities.

I would even venture to say that some people don't want to see that part because it disturbs them deeply. They really might need alternative programming.

I'm as outraged, as moved and as hurt as most Americans, but I just don't see the value of so many media outlets doing the same thing at the same time.

[AlethiaSi]

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

No. Neither.

We were chatting in our network control room today about the situation in New York City, where WABC-TV (Channel 7) had decided to carry the services from "Ground Zero," but not carry the reading of all of the names of the victims.

There was so much negativity, that the station caved in and carried the names.

Sorry if it's insensitive, but I don't see why five or six TV stations, along with several cable networks should all carry hours of reading of names. If a viewer really wants to see and hear that, they have many opportunities.

I would even venture to say that some people don't want to see that part because it disturbs them deeply. They really might need alternative programming.

I'm as outraged, as moved and as hurt as most Americans, but I just don't see the value of so many media outlets doing the same thing at the same time.

I agree, everytime I turned around yesterday, there was something else on. I really liked the fact that NPR (which I listen to everyyy morning ) had a special on it, but didn't broadcast (but did stream the ceremony on their website). They did specials with interviews, etc.

I also heard this later on that evening on my way home about Sheikh Rashid Lamptey

I was at work all day so i stayed away from the TV until I came home and watched a documentary on the History channel about Rick Rescorla (http://www.rickrescorla.com/)

I think it was pretty excessive the way that things were shoved at people from every mass media outlet.

[OneTimeSBX]

i chose not to turn on any news report yesterday. the effects are felt year round, i didnt feel the need to mourn on the anniversary.

it still hurts. i remember being in my moms kitchen holding my daughter who was 10 months old at the time, crying my eyes out. i was so scared, DC is just an hour away from me, and i live 10 minutes from one of the biggest military supply centers on the east coast. this is our generations Pearl Harbor. we wont ever forget it. it will always be on our minds.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX

i chose not to turn on any news report yesterday. the effects are felt year round, i didnt feel the need to mourn on the anniversary.

it still hurts. i remember being in my moms kitchen holding my daughter who was 10 months old at the time, crying my eyes out. i was so scared, DC is just an hour away from me, and i live 10 minutes from one of the biggest military supply centers on the east coast. this is our generations Pearl Harbor. we wont ever forget it. it will always be on our minds.

In one way or another we have the after effects of 9/11 carrying on everyday...I work in a federal building downtown DC right around the corner from Gee Dubs house....with armed guards....

[honeychile]

Everyone does mourn in a different way, and I feel that there does need to be a choice in tv shows and other media to please everyone.

I would just hate to see the day forgotten. As it is, what do we do on the Fourth of July? Cook out and watch fireworks? How many people really do anything patriotic on that important, historic day?

That's the reason that I made sure that our houses & office all flew the American flag (at half mast) and that I included rememberence in my day. There are almost 3,000 civilian people whose deaths were uncalled for. May they never be forgotten.

[Tom Earp]

Sorry that I missed the Thread, but, it cannot be said enough!

[Drolefille]

Yes, yes it can.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

No. Neither.

We were chatting in our network control room today about the situation in New York City, where WABC-TV (Channel 7) had decided to carry the services from "Ground Zero," but not carry the reading of all of the names of the victims.

There was so much negativity, that the station caved in and carried the names.

Sorry if it's insensitive, but I don't see why five or six TV stations, along with several cable networks should all carry hours of reading of names. If a viewer really wants to see and hear that, they have many opportunities.

I would even venture to say that some people don't want to see that part because it disturbs them deeply. They really might need alternative programming.

I'm as outraged, as moved and as hurt as most Americans, but I just don't see the value of so many media outlets doing the same thing at the same time.

I agree with your comments.
However there maybe a point of interest/"fact" that maybe of interest.
WABC/ABC was NOT going to show the entire program.
However groups representing survivors and family/friends insisted that they should and had to. One of the main reasons they used:
The people who had an interest in event but not able to make their way to the locations could only see it on WABC/ABC!!!!!!
WABC/ABC is one of at least 6 stations in NYC that are over the air.
And in fact only WCBS/CBS was live, over the air, on 9.11.01 as it was the only network to have their antennae on the Empire State Building.

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by jon1856

And in fact only WCBS/CBS was live, over the air, on 9.11.01 as it was the only network to have their antennae on the Empire State Building.

That is true.

At one time, all of the major NYC TV stations were on The Empire State Building, and all moved to The World Trade Center.

WCBS-TV (Channel 2) was the only one left that still maintained a transmitter site at Empire State -- although I'm pretty sure it was a backup site and that Channel 2's main site was also at WTC.

Most (probably all) of the Trade Center sites were automated, but I know that there were some TV technicians at the sites, probably doing maintenance. The man who replaced me at the UN is a former Assistant Chief Engineer at one of the stations, and talked to one of his people on the phone who didn't make it out I believe.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

That is true.

At one time, all of the major NYC TV stations were on The Empire State Building, and all moved to The World Trade Center.

WCBS-TV (Channel 2) was the only one left that still maintained a transmitter site at Empire State -- although I'm pretty sure it was a backup site and that Channel 2's main site was also at WTC.

Most (probably all) of the Trade Center sites were automated, but I know that there were some TV technicians at the sites, probably doing maintenance. The man who replaced me at the UN is a former Assistant Chief Engineer at one of the stations, and talked to one of his people on the phone who didn't make it out I believe.

We are both correct.
Lifted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_during_the_September_11%2C_2001_atta cks


"After the attack, the cell phone network of New York City was rapidly overloaded as traffic doubled over normal levels. Cell phone traffic also overloaded across the East Coast leading to crashes of the cell phone network. Since three of the major broadcast networks had their transmission towers atop the North Tower (One World Trade Center), coverage was limited after the collapse of the tower. The satellite feed of one station, WPIX, froze on the last image received from the WTC mast; the image (a remote-camera shot of the burning towers), viewable across North America (as WPIX is available on cable TV in many areas), remained on the screen for much of the day until WPIX was able to set up alternate transmission facilities. It shows the WTC at the moment that power was cut off to the WPIX transmitter, prior to the towers' collapse.
During the September 11, 2001 attacks, WCBS-TV channel 2 stayed on the air. Unlike most of the other major New York television stations, it had long maintained a full-powered backup transmitter at the Empire State Building after moving its main transmitter to the North Tower of the World Trade Center. The station was also simulcasted nationally on Viacom (which at the time owned CBS) cable network VH1 that day. In the immediate aftermath of the attacks, the station lent transmission time to the other stations who had lost their transmitters until they found suitable backup equipment and locations.
The Emergency Alert System was never activated in the terrorist attacks.
AT&T eliminated any costs for domestic calls originating from the New York City area (phones using area codes 212/718/917/646/347) in days following 9/11."

And before anyone jumps in with what maybe an incorrect thought:
Lifted from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Alert_System
"
On September 11, 2001, ". . . the EAS was not activated nationally or regionally in New York or Washington during the terrorist attacks on the nation." Richard Rudman, then chairman of the EAS National Advisory Committee explained that near immediate coverage in the national media meant that the media itself provided the warning or alert of what had happened at what might happen as quickly as the information could be distributed. "Some events really do serve as their own alerts and warnings. With the immediate live media coverage, the need for an EAS warning was lessened." 34 PEP stations were kept on high alert for use if the President had decided to order an Emergency Action Notification. "PEP is really is a last-ditch effort to get a message out if the president cannot get to the media." [7]"