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Originally Posted by KSig RC
Probably not. Care to prove either of these assertions?
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Yeah I have no life other than to talk politics on greekchat. And I'm not "proving" anything since my statements were matters of opinions. I will provide (as best I can on my lunch break) my reasoning for my opinion.
The civil war needs to happen because some things just won't ever worked out peacefully. Not with PM who leads only his side.
Civil Wars tend to have a cleansing effect on nations. England would still have political/religious termoil had the Episipalions (Cavaliers) and Presbyterian (Puritan/Round-Head)s in parliment not forced certain issues to a head. But on to the Iraq situation.
Let's look at the facts:
with Saddam in power there were:
Ba'athists (ruling)
other Sunnis
Shi'a
Yazidi (spelling?) Kurds
Moslem Kurds
various types of Christians
all of them (including Ba'athists who weren't related to Husein family [and even some who were]) lived on the good graces of crazed tyranical dicatator.
But, as crazed tyranical dictators go, he wasn't that crazed or tyrnanical. He was a bad guy, but not the worse. Better than Molosovic, or say, Pol Pot.
now, under Husein, not everything was peachy but you had electricity and running water and it's not like his Iraq was truly backwards, they used toilet paper, not just their left hand. There was some sectarian violence here and there but if it got out hand he would step in and make peace. His method of making peace was to kill anyone who he thought might be violent. Not the best method in the world, but surely (since the only fair way to compare him is against other dictators) better than burning down entire villages based on a rumor of renegade school teacher (Mussolini in Italy).
So now that he is gone there are:
Shia who want nothing to do with a unified Iraq
Shia who think only Shia should control the entirty of a unified Iraq
Shia who think now is the time to purge the world of "lesser" Muslims
Sunni who are fighting everyone
the Islamic State in Iraq (branch of Al-Qaeda)
cells that are directly part of Al-Qaeda
Yazidis who stone girls to death for falling in love
Yazidis who are killed en masse to get back at the other Yazidi village
and the list goes on....
It seems to me that (based on my conversations with people who are either soliders in or immigrants from Iraq) the U.S. army is basically doing the job of the Iraqi police. Now that is a whole lot of people shooting at each other, with OUR people getting in the way and telling them to stop.
I don't think we should tell them to stop. We didn't like Hussein, fine whatever, I don't care he is gone. But if they don't have their civil war now, then they will twenty years from now.
Iraq is already in a state of civil war. The U.S., as a matter of public policy, and good common sense, not choose sides in a foreign civil war. In my opinion after our mission was accomplished, we should have left immeditatly.
Liberty doesn't come for free. We should not take care of the world's bar tab.
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