A question about deferred recruitment

UGAalum94 · #1 06-30-2007, 06:34 PM

I honestly did try searching first.

When a school has deferred recruitment for first year students, but fall recruitment for others, how do they classify kids with a zillion AP credits or kids who did dual enrollment in high school?

aephi alum · #2 06-30-2007, 06:42 PM

Probably as freshmen. At my school, you couldn't declare sophomore standing until the second semester of your first year, no matter how many AP credits you came in with.

The idea is that incoming non-transfer students should at least have had the opportunity to go through FR (whether they actually did or not).

UGAalum94 · #3 06-30-2007, 06:59 PM

That makes sense. Thank you.

What about the dual enrollment folks? Probably the same deal?

Is it accurate to conclude that at schools with deferred recruitment it's easier to get a bid as an upperclassmen (upperclassperson?) generally?

Or is it the same type deal as some non-deferred recruitment in which often the only groups doing informal didn't get quota in formal AND in formal they're mainly looking for first years?

I'm wondering if basically girls who go to a school with deferred who have a lot of credits when they start pretty much need to go through their first formal opportunity or forget it?

ETA: Okay, how is it that when I searched for threads about deferred recruitment, no visible returns were threads titled deferred recruitment, but now, I've got similar thread links to "deferred recruitment" at the bottom. What am I doing wrong when I search?

alum · #4 06-30-2007, 07:03 PM

At UVa (a relatively competitive Greek school), there is deferred recruitment in January. The only groups who have informal in the fall are the ones who didn't make quota.

Don't know about the AP credit questions.

33girl · #5 07-01-2007, 11:01 PM

Do they have AP credits in the sense of testing out of things (i.e. they don't have to take Freshman English) or do they have AP credits that give them an actual University GPA?

The first instance, it wouldn't matter. The second instance, they should be able to rush. Some of our sisters did that - the main thing was that they had a university GPA.

As for is it easier for upperclassmen to get a bid at a deferred school, the timing of rush really doesn't matter. SMU has deferred and it's obviously harder there than it would be at some schools.

If Frieda Freshman has a semester's worth of credits, I guess she could go through in the fall if she wanted to, but doing formal would probably be better.

Xylochick216 · #6 07-01-2007, 11:19 PM

At Elon, everyone was required to have 12 credits at Elon under their belt before they could go through recruitment. Students who have enough AP credits to bump their classification usually still classify themselves by how many years they have been on campus, which makes things easier. I was technically a sophomore when I entered college, but I stayed for 4 years so I could take extra classes, which I emphasized when going through recruitment.

UGAalum94 · #7 07-02-2007, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

Do they have AP credits in the sense of testing out of things (i.e. they don't have to take Freshman English) or do they have AP credits that give them an actual University GPA?

The first instance, it wouldn't matter. The second instance, they should be able to rush. Some of our sisters did that - the main thing was that they had a university GPA.

As for is it easier for upperclassmen to get a bid at a deferred school, the timing of rush really doesn't matter. SMU has deferred and it's obviously harder there than it would be at some schools.

If Frieda Freshman has a semester's worth of credits, I guess she could go through in the fall if she wanted to, but doing formal would probably be better.

With the AP credits, they don't have GPAs, but they actually have the credit hours, I'm pretty sure.

I guess like so much on GC; it [ETA: deferred recruitment and what it's like] depends on the campus.

Drolefille · #8 07-02-2007, 09:06 AM

This is accurate. You may get 3 credits but you don't have a GPA recorded for them (much like a transfer credit). I haven't heard of a campus giving you an actual GPA, just having different standards for what AP score gives you credit.

violetpretty · #9 07-03-2007, 11:23 AM

At Maryland, first semester freshmen can join a chapter if they have at least 12 credits (be they AP, community college, etc) and I think there is a minimum high school GPA set by each chapter if this is the case. I had 15 credits coming in and I always wonder what would have happened if I tried going through my first semester. I was clueless enough as it was when I actually did go through, so it probably would have been disastrous.

I do know of other schools where first semester freshmen can not go through recruitment regardless of credits.

UGAalum94 · #10 07-03-2007, 11:37 AM

Since I had Ohio State in mind when I asked, I realize that deferred recruitment is only part of the issue. With their rigid chapter total thing, their situation is probably unique.

cuteASAbug · #11 07-03-2007, 11:48 AM

I think Drolefille hit it on the nail, if you take AP classes, you get x number of credits for them, but your grades aren't counted. So you can come in with 12 credits, but your GPA will be 0.00 at the start of the semester. At Wagner, we have deferred recruitment and fall recruitment is only for transfer students (as in students who transferred from another college or university, not students who came in with 15 AP credits from high school) and upperclassmen.

UGAalum94 · #12 07-03-2007, 11:59 AM

Oh, yeah, she's definite right about the AP stuff.

ASABug, if you were talking to me, I was just clarifying that I realized even if I understood completely how people were classified, unless somebody actually knew Ohio State recruitment, most answers wouldn't generalize to there as far as how much it mattered to go through recruitment during your first period of eligibility for it.

ETA: does anyone know about this for Ohio State?