Ironic...

[GRRRRRRRREEEEK!]

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that whenever a fraternity or sorority defends its exclusivity, its partying and its hazing by talking about how important community service and philanthropy is to Greek life? Especially when you look at the number of posts in each category on this site.

Top 3 Most Popular Topics:
1) Greek Life
2) Recruitment
3) Risk Management (hazing, etc.)

Bottom 3 Least Popular Topics:
1) Fundraising
2) Events
3) Community Service/Philanthropy

Glad to see you guys have your priorities straight...you're all so full of shit I can smell it from here.

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by GRRRRRRRREEEEK!

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that whenever a fraternity or sorority defends its exclusivity, its partying and its hazing by talking about how important community service and philanthropy is to Greek life? Especially when you look at the number of posts in each category on this site.

Top 3 Most Popular Topics:
1) Greek Life
2) Recruitment
3) Risk Management (hazing, etc.)

Bottom 3 Least Popular Topics:
1) Fundraising
2) Events
3) Community Service/Philanthropy

Glad to see you guys have your priorities straight...you're all so full of shit I can smell it from here.

So. What kind of dorks join social fraternities and sororities to bake cookies for old people?

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by GRRRRRRRREEEEK!

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that whenever a fraternity or sorority defends its exclusivity, its partying and its hazing by talking about how important community service and philanthropy is to Greek life? Especially when you look at the number of posts in each category on this site.

Top 3 Most Popular Topics:
1) Greek Life
2) Recruitment
3) Risk Management (hazing, etc.)

Bottom 3 Least Popular Topics:
1) Fundraising
2) Events
3) Community Service/Philanthropy

Glad to see you guys have your priorities straight...you're all so full of shit I can smell it from here.

Maybe you should quit greek life and join Americorp or the salvation army if all you want to do through-out college is community service activities.

[LaneSig]

Originally Posted by GRRRRRRRREEEEK!

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that whenever a fraternity or sorority defends its exclusivity, its partying and its hazing by talking about how important community service and philanthropy is to Greek life? Especially when you look at the number of posts in each category on this site.

Top 3 Most Popular Topics:
1) Greek Life
2) Recruitment
3) Risk Management (hazing, etc.)

Bottom 3 Least Popular Topics:
1) Fundraising
2) Events
3) Community Service/Philanthropy

Glad to see you guys have your priorities straight...you're all so full of shit I can smell it from here.

Thanks, we're pretty happy with ourselves. Apparently you are not.

[Texas Beta]

It's so much more then the six things you listed. Also, most sorority or fraternity events that raise money for a specific thing, raise a lot of money. The same can't be said about other groups who are not as organized.

[AlexMack]

Anyone else find it ironic that GDIs care so strongly about this topic that they register to troll a website and then leave?

[cutie_cat_4ever]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Maybe you should quit greek life and join Americorp or the salvation army if all you want to do through-out college is community service activities.

Maybe that person is not even greek?

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by GRRRRRRRREEEEK!

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that whenever a fraternity or sorority defends its exclusivity, its partying and its hazing by talking about how important community service and philanthropy is to Greek life? Especially when you look at the number of posts in each category on this site.

Top 3 Most Popular Topics:
1) Greek Life
2) Recruitment
3) Risk Management (hazing, etc.)

Bottom 3 Least Popular Topics:
1) Fundraising
2) Events
3) Community Service/Philanthropy

Glad to see you guys have your priorities straight...you're all so full of shit I can smell it from here.

I'm sorry you are a loser, probobly emo, GDI. Go cut yourself and yell at your father.

[REE1993]

Originally Posted by GRRRRRRRREEEEK!

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that whenever a fraternity or sorority defends its exclusivity, its partying and its hazing by talking about how important community service and philanthropy is to Greek life? Especially when you look at the number of posts in each category on this site.

Top 3 Most Popular Topics:
1) Greek Life
2) Recruitment
3) Risk Management (hazing, etc.)

Bottom 3 Least Popular Topics:
1) Fundraising
2) Events
3) Community Service/Philanthropy

Glad to see you guys have your priorities straight...you're all so full of shit I can smell it from here.

I am an alumna of a Service sorority. Does that make what social sororities do any less worthy or important? No. Does that make me a socially inept person without the ability to connect, relax, and "have fun"? No.

What matters is that people come together with mutual ideals and beliefs. There are immature, greedy, narcissistic people in every microcosm in every country, every contentinent of this earth.

The bottom line is - Without recruitment, there would be no Greek system. Without Risk management policies, there would be no protection, order or guidelines.

Does your employer have health insurance, liability coverage, and performance policies to protect employees and customers? Do they advertise to hire new employees to run the very businesses that are essential to living life as we know it?

If you choose to not pursue Greek life, then do not pursue it. Are there problems? Of course. Individuals in any group, organization, company, community, or country exist as parts of a bigger whole. Somtimes, people make stupid decisions. The parts do not equal the whole. Processes break down, conflicts arise, and honey, the world is not a perfect place.

If you do not understand something, why not ask questions, instead of making sweeping gerenalizations? It really isn't any of your business what people in any orgnaization chooses to do. Your perceptions from outside looking in are just that - your observations. At the very least, respect others and their freedomes to live their lives. If it doesn't infringe on your liberties, then let them live.

[Xidelt]

Originally Posted by GRRRRRRRREEEEK!

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that whenever a fraternity or sorority defends its exclusivity, its partying and its hazing by talking about how important community service and philanthropy is to Greek life? Especially when you look at the number of posts in each category on this site.

Top 3 Most Popular Topics:
1) Greek Life
2) Recruitment
3) Risk Management (hazing, etc.)

Bottom 3 Least Popular Topics:
1) Fundraising
2) Events
3) Community Service/Philanthropy

Glad to see you guys have your priorities straight...you're all so full of shit I can smell it from here.

Somebody's just mad b/c they didn't get a bid. Now they're sour grapes. They probably tell everyone they meet who happens to have a Greek affiliation that they are just "paying for friends."

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

Ree wrote a great post. Fraternities and sororities are not just about partying or drinking or such, but let's face it. Most of us here are collegians, and it doesn't matter if you're in an organization or you're an independent: socializing and drinking is probably high on your priority list. Not everybody focuses on those two aspects of college life, but seriously: most do. As far as Recruitment, it's the lifeblood of these organizations. One pledge class can ruin a chapter or make improve it 110%. A few years of bad recruitment can close a chapter. It's hard to balance the constant need for new members with the pressure to pick the right ones, so it's a popular topic with most of us. It's copmlex and extremely important. Risk Management is just as important. We don't want our brothers and sisters getting themselves into trouble, getting our whole chapters into trouble, or, god forbid, badly injure themselves. Today liability is a huge issue, with lawsuits being thrown around all over the place, as well.

We all have philanthropies that we raise huge amounts of money for anually. Being in a fraternity or sorority often gives the average college student, who will rarely take the initiative to support or run a large fundraising event, a chance to do that.

[mulattogyrl]

Originally Posted by macallan25

I'm sorry you are a loser, probobly emo, GDI. Go cut yourself and yell at your father.

LMAAAAAAAAAAO!!!!

[UGAalum94]

I'm not sure that number of posts on GreekChat is the way you want to evaluate what's imporant in greek life.

[emily0325]

I bet that this guy hasn't done a single thing to help his community or raise money for anything.. Stop cutting us short and examine yourself.

[REE1993]

Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl

Ree wrote a great post.

We all have philanthropies that we raise huge amounts of money for anually. Being in a fraternity or sorority often gives the average college student, who will rarely take the initiative to support or run a large fundraising event, a chance to do that.

Thanks for the compliment! I agree, social or service-oriented, our GLOs are more than what appears on the outside. I do not condone hazing or alcohol infractions, but those rules are necessary in this highliy litigious world.

And no, you don't have to be Greek to be slopy drunk, peeing in public, or be comsumed by your looks and designer bags. It just so happens that in EVERY group, be it Greek, church, choir, class, dorm - there are people who get out of hand.

ETA There is strength in numbers. If you gather 50 people to clean up the campus, and you all wore yellow shirts that read "Campus Clenaup 2006", isn't that the same thing?

My first school had some pretty major incidents on campus that involved Greeks, but many more that involved "regular" students.

BTW I am not a Barbie, I am brunette, short, kind of geeky, and wear glasses. I take of my self and pride in presenting myself nicely. Unless it's 10am on a sunday and I haven't had coffee yet and I am driving to Dunks. And I was president, and membership VP (pledge mom) of my sorority, as well as an editor of the Student newspaper, AND Homecoming queen. Looking at me, you would never believe it.

Like I said earlier, if you don't like it, stay away. If you see something illegal, call the cops and let them take care of it. But please don't judge anyone because of the letters they wear. We are just more visible as a group. Think about those lacrosse players in (I think) one of the Carolina schools. If it had been a group of non-affilated (sports team) people, would it have reached such stature in the news? (NOT CONDONING IT).