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Old 08-15-2005, 11:35 AM
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Question G. Craig Lewis?

Hey has anybody heard of a guy named G. Craig Lewis??

This past weekend I went to Columbus to visit some friends of mine and they invited me to a service at their church on Saturday. There was this guy, named G. Craig Lewis who was speaking about the Truth of Hip Hop and stuff like that. I was told that he has two videos out about this topic and that he has spoken all over the world including college campuses on this issue. (However, I never heard of him until Saturday)

I was wondering if anybody has heard of him and if so what was your take on his views and messages. Apparently he has a website -> ExMinistries Please check it out and let me know. I will post my opinion later just wanted to hear some other opinions first.

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Old 08-15-2005, 04:35 PM
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Were you at the service at New Covenant? I was supposed to go to that but I was stuck typing a paper. My friend said that she's heard him speak before but a lot of what he says is based on his opinion and not so much biblical.

How was the message?
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Old 08-15-2005, 08:20 PM
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Yeah I think that was the name of the church. But I agree with your friend it was a lot of opinion. I am a new Christian so I don't know a lot about the Bible, so I wasnt sure if it was all fact or opinion. It left me confused and little frustrated. We ended up leaving early so I dont know how it ended.

A soror from Howard told me he came to their campus dogging Greek Life, so he really left a bad taste in her mouth.

It doesnt seem like a lot of people has heard of him, from this post...but apparently he has been around to a lot of campuses.
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Old 08-16-2005, 03:00 AM
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I've seen one of his videos and in my opinion the things G. Craig Lewis speaks on are very controversial and some of his statements do make sense. But on the other hand some of it is based off of opinion because not only does he attack secular artists, but gospel artists and pastors...and he didn't have a scripture to back up everything. (Not saying every gospel artist and pastor is legit, but I disagreed with some of his information.)

But overall the topics he covered were very informative and I think it's worth watching. I'm curious as to what he said in part II.
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Old 08-16-2005, 12:19 PM
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yeah it was definitely very informative and there was some things he talked about that really gave me some insight. And besides, God has already been working with me and my music issue.

However, I do not think it is a SIN to listen to secular music, although some music is very disstasteful. I can't even listen to the Ying Yang Twins without something negative stirring up in my soul.

Great insight...thanks for posting 1flypoodle!
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:25 AM
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However, I do not think it is a SIN to listen to secular music,
I don't think so either. It just depends on what you're listening to - i.e. explicit themes can be very impressionable.

I watched the clip. I still stand by my belief that the average church hymn does not appeal to everyone. For instance, when I was a babe in Christ, I could not relate to the Canton Sprituals, whereas it took listening to Kirk Frankilin or Mary Mary's style to get me in a mode of worship. To be honest, that's still the style of gospel music that I prefer.

I wonder - does he offer a solution to bring more souls to Christ vs. just tearing down other christians (someone mentioned that he criticized pastors, and I saw where a pic of Tonex was flashed) ?
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:21 AM
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I am a new Christian so I don't know a lot about the Bible. . .
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Congratulations! Just one thing. . . watch where you are fed. Many times, people put their own twist on the Bible to make it sound like gospel. That's why you have to study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. (2 Timothy 2:15)

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Old 08-20-2005, 08:06 PM
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Congratulations! Just one thing. . . watch where you are fed. Many times, people put their own twist on the Bible to make it sound like gospel. That's why you have to study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. (2 Timothy 2:15)

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Old 08-23-2005, 02:07 PM
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Hey my church brought G. Graig Lewis to speak for our Youth Revival. He was very good! He talked a lot about Hip Hop culture, and how music affects what we think and do. I thought he was an excellent speaker. I think some people do not like him because he brings conviction and no one likes being convicted. He annointed all of the youth at the end of the service and I can truly say that my life has been soooo much better. I am sorry for those who were offended but a lot of what he says is the truth.
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Old 08-23-2005, 02:52 PM
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I have seen the first part and I would like to see the second part. It was informative and true. Some the things he was speaking on was definitely true. I do agree with him when it comes to gospel artist and preachers involving themselves in such music. This scriptures talks about us being holy because God is holy. We should also be holy because God is royality and ahe be given the highest respect. I am not trying to having a sermon going forth....

1Peter 1:14-16

14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance: 15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; 16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
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Old 08-23-2005, 08:44 PM
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^^^Excellent Scriptures! I totally agree!
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:37 AM
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Saw the DVD of Craig Lewis at bible study tonight

It was very good and shockingly accurate.

The whole point of his message on the Spirit of Hip Hop was that a lot of these secular artists are working with gospel artists and making these songs about and praising "God" (what God?; it certainly isn't Jesus). The is the enemy's attempt to infiltrate the church with these demonic hip hop spirits under the guise of praising Jesus. Why? Because up until recently, the church was an untapped market for many of these artists and an unventured avenue.

Further, if the church gets infiltrated with these spirits, there will be a stronghold that will be much harder to remove than it was to develop.

I don't know if I am making sense of this or not, but if these secular artists don't want to get delivered and claim Jesus as Lord, they have no business performing in the church. Period.
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:44 AM
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Re: Saw the DVD of Craig Lewis at bible study tonight

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It was very good and shockingly accurate.

The whole point of his message on the Spirit of Hip Hop was that a lot of these secular artists are working with gospel artists and making these songs about and praising "God" (what God?; it certainly isn't Jesus). The is the enemy's attempt to infiltrate the church with these demonic hip hop spirits under the guise of praising Jesus. Why? Because up until recently, the church was an untapped market for many of these artists and an unventured avenue.

Further, if the church gets infiltrated with these spirits, there will be a stronghold that will be much harder to remove than it was to develop.

I don't know if I am making sense of this or not, but if these secular artists don't want to get delivered and claim Jesus as Lord, they have no business performing in the church. Period.

You make sense. I guess I have to see the DVD. Why did he have Tonex up there, though? He does claim Jesus Christ as Lord & Savior. As a matter of fact - did you see the Stellar Awards?
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Old 08-31-2005, 09:49 AM
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Far as the Tonex thing he (Craig Lewis) mentioned him in his first video because Tonex had a very interesting interview where he was saying some strange stuff. But I think that Tonex when he first came out was trying to be tooo radical and different. However, now that he is a little bit older I think that he has toned down a lot. Now is that reason to "out" him?? I don't think so.

Now I do agree with Rainman I think we as Christians are trying to camaflouge (sp?) tooo much with the world. To the point that if say that you are a Christian people be like so what I am too and you can see clearly through there lifestyle that they are not. The Bible says you can tell a tree by the fruit it produces.
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Old 08-31-2005, 09:53 AM
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I agree with mostly everyone. However, I think that the lyrics of the song are more important then who is actually singing the song...does that make sense?

So if R.Kelly can make a gospel cd (which he did ) But the lyrics are edifying then I definitely believe that someone could be drawn closer to God through the message and not just the messenger.

Anyone agree or understand??
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