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12-13-2000, 02:02 AM
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Fellow BGLO Greeks...
My fellow BGLO greeks...I was thinking about some BGLO organizations that have auxillary or affiliate organization. I'm not talking sweethearts or mascots. I'm speaking of Sigma Gamma Rho's Philos. Do you think your organization could benefit from having person's who don't fit your orgs. membership requirments affiliated with it in some ways? One example are those who are at an institution not seeking a four-year degree. I have a friend who has expressed interest to me about joining a particular BGLO sorority. However, she only obtained a 2 year degree. It was a decision she made with careful thought. It's the degree she wanted and she now has a fufilling career. But now, she can't attempt to seek membership in that sorority cause she doesn't have a four year degree or not on the path to obtaining one. So in general how do you feel about situations like this one? Now I know some might aruge that their particualr organization has been around for umpteen years and they are doing fine on the strength of their active members. But wouldn't it be nice to have a network of sisterfriends or brothers who are committed to the particular orgs. principles providing assistance. I'm not arguing for or against this, I was just thinking and wanted to start a discussion on this topic. Remember, I just brought up the topic. I wanted to spark intelligent conversation on this. Peace Out and Much Divine Nine Love!!!
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12-13-2000, 09:06 AM
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Nupe4Life,
My organization does have a group for women who have the same ideals as Zeta Phi Beta but do not meet the membership requirements. That organization is called the Amicae. They were established in 1948. A group of Amicae is associated with a local chapter, and they assist the chapter with activites and they have their own activities. They are a great help to our sorority and especially to the chapters that have a group.
ZetaAce
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12-13-2000, 10:17 AM
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based on the principles that my sorority was founded upon, an affiliate organization of women who do not meet membership requirements would be inappropriate. we certainly invite these women to support the chapter events, but, could not have any formal relationship with them. additionally, i think any auxillary official attached to an organization can present a serious liability to the chapter.
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12-13-2000, 10:40 AM
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Interesting topic...
My opinion is that each org should stand alone. I do not see a need for auxiliary organizations to assist with service projects. In my opinion, anyone affiliated with any org or individually can perform service.
I feel that if someone wants to join a particular org, then they must meet the membership requirements. I see the potential, only potential, for misuse and abuse of people in these groups by members. I would hope that the better side of human nature governs the relationship.
However, since I do not personally know of anyone in this arrangement, I am speaking theoretically.
I do have a question though. How is it handled, in general, when people who are/were members of these aux groups apply for membership? This would occur, of course, after they meet the minimum requirements for the sponsoring BGLO.
Just curious!
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12-13-2000, 12:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by mccoyred:
Interesting topic...
I do have a question though. How is it handled, in general, when people who are/were members of these aux groups apply for membership? This would occur, of course, after they meet the minimum requirements for the sponsoring BGLO.
Just curious!
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Hey...Only speaking for the Amicae auxiliary of Zeta Phi Beta Sorority Inc., we do encourage Amicae who meet the membership requirements, to apply for membership into Zeta Phi Beta. Amicae (Amica, singular) still must believe and follow many of the same principles as Zeta Sorors, therefore, they are well positioned to seek and receive membership into Zeta, if qualified. Amicae must apply and seek membership with the same process as any other prospect.
Zeta Amicae, while formed officially in 1948, had been organized informally longer than that under local chapters. The decision came in 1948 to formalize the relationship. As far as I am aware, we have had no additional legal issues stemming from having Amicae, or any of our other auxiliaries: Pearlettes (4-7 year olds), Amicettes (8-13), Archonettes (high school), some of which have been around since the 1950s. Our auxiliaries have been nothing but a source of support and an extended family since early in Zetadom, and I am proud of our history with our auxiliaries...especially since my grandmother is a proud Zeta Amicae!
Hope that helps.
Shela
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12-13-2000, 08:05 PM
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Also,
As far as our Philo group, the only requirement they don't meet is that they aren't on their path to a 4 year degree. There are many extenuating circumstances in people's lives that wouldn't allow them to aim for a bachelors, money being a main reason. Many of us have to realize that we have been BLESSED to be able to attend a college or university. (whether we're on scholarship, financial aid, or paying out-of-pocket)But just because you can't attach your name to a 4 year program, that doesn't mean that you can't be good representatives of the PRINCIPLES of my organization: primarily sisterhood, service and scholarship. (Keep in mind that when I say scholarship, I mean a belief in its importance.) As our Zeta sisterfriend stated about their Amicae, our Philos are also encouraged to obtain their 4 year degree. And the sorority will help them with that in any conceivable way.
When and if the time comes that they enroll in a 4 year program, they would go about obtaining membership as any other interest would. The only thing is, that they already would know what a Sigma woman stands for, and what we expect.
SoloRHO
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12-13-2000, 08:34 PM
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EEEYIIP that my Soror SoloRho. I would like to add that the Greek word "Philo" means friend. They are dedicated friends of our sorority. They elect their own officers and hold their own meetings. They assist us and are not a liability. I have known them to be some of the nicest ladies I have met and know of several who have since becoming Philos have obtained their degrees and are in the process of applying for membership.
I think I had asked this question on the Kappa forum, Nupe 4 Life. I have a friend who was interested in Kappa but only has an Associate degree. It would be nice if he could affiliate but I was told that Kappa Alpha Psi does not have such a group.
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12-14-2000, 01:35 AM
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I'm curious about something based on some of your responses to this interesting topic. Without getting into any one organization's "business" can someone help me out with a question? If someone pledges in undergrad but never finishes...yes they are a member of XYZ but they decided to get an associates degree and leave the 4 yr college can they actively/financially participate in a graduate/alumni/alumnae chapter? Has there ever been such an instance?
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12-14-2000, 04:14 AM
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I thought that this was a really interesting topic. But since I'm not in a BGLO, I'd greatly appreciate it if someone would take a moment to answer a few questions. (Of course I'd understand if answering any of them wouldn't be appropriate)
Do auxiliary groups like Philos and Amicae act strictly as "helpers/supporters" of their respective groups? Or do they do their own philanthropies as well?
Also, just how similar to a sorority are these groups? Do they have their own rituals, intake, etc.?
Big thanks for any answers that ya'll can offer!
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12-14-2000, 04:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by SoCalGirl:
Do auxiliary groups like Philos and Amicae act strictly as "helpers/supporters" of their respective groups? Or do they do their own philanthropies as well?
Also, just how similar to a sorority are these groups? Do they have their own rituals, intake, etc.?
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Hi SoCalGirl...
The primary role of Zeta Amicae (friend in Latin) is support the local area chapters with service projects and other activities. They are not a chapter, they are an auxiliary--they operate because Zeta operates. Zeta Amicae can have their own fundraisers and do often conduct their own service projects, if they desire, but it is with the assistance/overview of their sponsor chapters.
Zeta Amicae do have their own membership drives and processes, once again with the assistance and overview of their sponsor chapters. Zeta Amicae's colors are different than Zeta's colors, and they do not use any of the ritual materials of Zeta.
Hope this answers your question.
To my Delta Sisterfriend: Generally, membership in Zeta grad chapters requires a BA degree or higher.
Shouts to my Sisterfriends of SGRho and their Philos.
Best,
Shela
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12-14-2000, 06:13 PM
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Thanks Shelacious!
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12-14-2000, 08:16 PM
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I think everything Shelacious said about Zeta Amicae applies to our Philos also. They have intake, and philanthropies etc... at the advisement and supervision of SGRho.
As far as the situation our other sisterfriend brought up about extending grad membership to a soror who happened to not get a Bachelors, I think she can become an associate member of a grad chapter. But I'd have to consult my handbook to be sure. Sorors, anyone know offhand?
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12-14-2000, 08:39 PM
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Hey Sisterfriends of SGRho...
What are the colors for Philos, and the official name?
Thanks,
Shela
You're welcome, SoCalGirl
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12-14-2000, 09:26 PM
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NupeforLife,
Thanks for the interesting/stimulating topic.
SoloRHO, Thanks for the well elaborated answer. I AM PROUD OF YOU!!!! you are not guilty any more- HEHEHEHEH.
Now, to answer your question, I think these groups of sisterfriends do serve a purpose. I believe if they not only help our programs but do their own slice of community service (something I am big on) they are also adding their 22+20 cents to MY and OUR founder's dream of uplifting the community. And..... according to many of us, that is the or one of the main reasons why we PLEDGED; not to become so "elite" like some orgs.
Uno.
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12-14-2000, 10:03 PM
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Someone asked about members who did not complete a ba degree...
well i happen to know a few who are not finish but have to sit out for a while. they are associat members of the local grad chapter.
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