Pikes at Howard Update

[Senusret I]

"As a member of the Divine Nine I am disappointed to see the fabric of the Howard Greek legacy and traditions be torn by this new addition," said senior marketing major A.C. Onyia, member of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc.

From Howard Hilltop Article "Fraternity With Racist Past Comes to Howard."

http://www.thehilltoponline.com/medi...m&mkey=1809198

[PhoenixAzul]

Oh boy...let the mayhem begin.

On a journalistic note: I would have rethought the headline for that...it could be construed as toe-ing the libel line.

(in order for it to be libel though, it must be wrong. The writer didn't mention where they found the "white's only "clause, and, in my not-so-professional opinion, that's a heavy accusation to make without saying "as found in their pamphlet/flyer/bylaws/charter/underwear drawer". Now if it is TRUE, then there's nothing to worry about, but it's a rough accusation to make without citing a source.)

[Jody]

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I checked the date, at first I thought this was a joke. So are the charter members black or white? Would a Pike or someone at Howard care to answer this question????????????????

[saetex]

hahahah, the Straight Out of Compton party was great.

[Optimist Prime]

Its probably true. Lots of fraternities had them. Its not that surprising. Its not something I'm proud of, but I think mine until '59 or so. And it wasn't there in the begining, it was only a clause for about 15 years or so with us, but still. I'm not proud of it, but to try to deny there was never something like that in any fraternity is just as dangerous as denying the holocost.

[saetex]

Originally posted by Optimist Prime
Its probably true. Lots of fraternities had them. Its not that surprising. Its not something I'm proud of, but I think mine until '59 or so. And it wasn't there in the begining, it was only a clause for about 15 years or so with us, but still. I'm not proud of it, but to try to deny there was never something like that in any fraternity is just as dangerous as denying the holocost.

thats what makes it all sound ridiculous. i'm sure alot of fraternities felt that way during various civil rights periods in history. i don't know about clauses, but i'm sure they had similar feelings.
there are plenty of black guys in good fraternities around the country..even in the south...and they don't seem to care. i can do nothing but applaud them. i just don't like the fact that some of these guys at howard feel necessary to play the race card....which is played way to much. i wonder how they would feel/react if a hoard of white guys wanted to come and pledge their national GLO. don't tell me theyd welcome them with open arms and just hand out bids.

[33girl]

Originally posted by Jody
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I checked the date, at first I thought this was a joke. So are the charter members black or white? Would a Pike or someone at Howard care to answer this question????????????????

I asked one of the colonizing members on here, and he said it's a mix.

[darling1]

there is a rather LENGTHY thread in this section of the forums. get your popcorn out.

Originally posted by Jody
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I checked the date, at first I thought this was a joke. So are the charter members black or white? Would a Pike or someone at Howard care to answer this question????????????????

[frathole]

the black charter members clearly joined because they hate themselves.

[darling1]

you had to set it off....lol

Originally posted by frathole
the black charter members clearly joined because they hate themselves.

[Erik P Conard]

In the 50s when I was on the road for TKE, most of the nationals
had "the clause." This enabled me to enter some schools with little hassle 'cause we had no such restriction. But one must bear in mind few minorities were in college then.
Funny, now that most of the outfits have removed the clause, the
so-called "ethnic" groups have sidestepped it all, kept to themselves, formed the "divine nine" and other walls. Most of the
bitching seems to come from the blacks themselves, still angry after five generations...
Why cannot Pi Kappa Alpha enter Howard without all this carping?
Howard receives our tax monies, no?
Moteesir, bull puckey.

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
In the 50s when I was on the road for TKE, most of the nationals
had "the clause." This enabled me to enter some schools with little hassle 'cause we had no such restriction. But one must bear in mind few minorities were in college then.
Funny, now that most of the outfits have removed the clause, the
so-called "ethnic" groups have sidestepped it all, kept to themselves, formed the "divine nine" and other walls. Most of the
bitching seems to come from the blacks themselves, still angry after five generations...
Why cannot Pi Kappa Alpha enter Howard without all this carping?
Howard receives our tax monies, no?
Moteesir, bull puckey.

Shut up! You don't know anything that you are talking about. The NPHC was founded in 1930, clearly before the abolishment of many clauses, and 8 of the 9 member orgs were founded by 1922.

Don't exaggerate by saying there were few minorities in college. If there were so few, then the NPHC orgs would have not have had the expansion that they did. On my campus 3 fraternity chapters were established by 1920, so obviously there were minorities there.

You've sad some pretty off the wall stuff, but this one takes the cake. Its offensive and plain wrong, and you're an idiot.

[Honeykiss1974]

Dang it!

Another potentially interesting thread goes down the crapper..

[mulattogyrl]

^^^^LMAO! Poor kitty.

[saetex]

Originally posted by jubilance1922
Shut up! You don't know anything that you are talking about. The NPHC was founded in 1930, clearly before the abolishment of many clauses, and 8 of the 9 member orgs were founded by 1922.

Don't exaggerate by saying there were few minorities in college. If there were so few, then the NPHC orgs would have not have had the expansion that they did. On my campus 3 fraternity chapters were established by 1920, so obviously there were minorities there.

You've sad some pretty off the wall stuff, but this one takes the cake. Its offensive and plain wrong, and you're an idiot.

how is his thread offensive. some of his facts maybe a little off, although in some areas of the country there were, in fact, very few minorities. i am studying this in a class right now. blacks are the ones bitching about all of these issues, why do you find that wrong to point that out?? he didn't say anything more than an opinion and what he thought were legitimate fact. there is no reason to call him an idiot.