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12-10-2005, 01:55 PM
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Christian Consevatives are hot about this year's White House Christmas card
Card Controversy
What's wrong with having Happy Holidays on there? Not everyone celebrates Christmas, some people celebrate Haunakah or Kwanzaa. I think that the President is trying to be politcally correct on the hoiday season, because not everyone celebrates Christmas.
If you were Jewish, would you get upset if the card read Merry Christmas instead of Happy Holidays?
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12-10-2005, 02:06 PM
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Start by reading the title of your thread - that should give you your first clue.
As a practicing Christian, I send Christmas cards to my Christian friends. Even though I rarely - very rarely - receive cards from my non-Christian friends, I do send them cards which say Happy Holidays or Season's Greetings.
Seeing as how 84% of the people in this country are Christian, they would probably be happier receiving Christmas cards. The other 16% could receive Holiday cards.
It should be that easy.
Btw, they're beautiful - much prettier than last year's!
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12-10-2005, 03:33 PM
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12-10-2005, 04:04 PM
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I think the cards are lovely, but then again I'm a sucker for cute doggy and kitty pictures.
There are multiple holidays in December, I'm sure the cards go to more than just Christians, so what's the big deal?
At the paper where I used to work, I sent cards out to my clients. I sent general season's greetings or happy holidays cards - in most cases, the cards were going to more than one person at a company, and I didn't know what religion everyone was...I covered everything.  (I did send Chanukah cards to a couple customers whom I knew were Jewish.  )
I'm Jewish and I don't get offended if someone says "Merry Christmas," or "Happy Kwanzaa" or anything like that. I have several neighbors who put up Nativity scenes in their yards. As long as they don't put one up in my yard it's fine with me.  The only way I'd get offended at a Christmas card someone sent me would be if someone knew I was Jewish and sent me a super-religious Christmas card and wrote a message trying to convert me.
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12-10-2005, 04:19 PM
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Ditto.
I liked their cards, myself. Although this year, my cards will be the traditional "Mary and the Baby Jesus" theme. I think I am officially over my snowmen/winterwonderland phase.
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12-10-2005, 04:30 PM
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Re: Christian Consevatives are hot about this year's White House Christmas card
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If you were Jewish, would you get upset if the card read Merry Christmas instead of Happy Holidays?
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One of my best friends is Jewish and she always sends me a Christmas card. It's kinda funny. She also went to the biggest Baptist university in the world, I tease her that she's a closet Christian.
I think it just bothers people because the holiday is Christmas, whether you celebrate it or not. Just because you're not a Christian doesn't mean the holiday Christmas does not exist! I can see where it would upset both sides.
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12-10-2005, 10:07 PM
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That, Plante says, has some Christian conservatives, who are pushing retailers and schools to call this holiday "Christmas," very upset.
The White House is trying to save money. Instead of acknowledging every separate holiday,happy holidays covers them all.
It's funny that the writer of the story didn't name names just a branch of Christians instead.
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12-10-2005, 10:30 PM
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As a late Southern Colorado Cowboy friend of mine used to say, "Some people would bitch if you hung 'em with a new rope."
The card has a Biblical message, and it certainly comes from a Christian President and wife.
It just doesn't have the message the want.
I always say happy holidays out of respect for people who may think differently from me.
I'm pleased that the White House does as well in this case.
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12-10-2005, 11:28 PM
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I really don't get it myself - basically Happy Holidays is saying Merry Christmas, because the holiday season includes Christmas... so to me if you have a problem with someone saying "Happy Holidays" you're compounding your intolerance with stupidity - or more insidiously you are someone trying to work an angle... (ala. FOX)
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12-11-2005, 12:13 AM
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xmas and xahka are on the same day this year. Can't this be a season of peace? seriously, chill out. of the i guess 84% of xians in in america, how many are the crazy ones that get offended by some one saying happy holidays? I thought happy holidays=new year if I don't see you again before then and whatever you might celebrate, have a good one.
Why does everyone in this country have such a stick up their ass?
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12-11-2005, 12:14 AM
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xahka=hannukah, festival of lights
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12-11-2005, 01:05 PM
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Basically, isnt Christmas a Christian Holiday? I always thought it was nice being Jewish and could have more than one Holiday!
If it isnt, then why does Santa fly all over the world leaving goodies for good boys and girls?  Maybe, He is non-denominational after all!
If The Christmas Tree isnt that anymore will there not be a Yule Log gone soon also!
PC is getting so out of whack!
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12-11-2005, 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by Optimist Prime
xmas and xahka are on the same day this year. Can't this be a season of peace? seriously, chill out. of the i guess 84% of xians in in america, how many are the crazy ones that get offended by some one saying happy holidays? I thought happy holidays=new year if I don't see you again before then and whatever you might celebrate, have a good one.
Why does everyone in this country have such a stick up their ass?
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Question: why did you abbreviate hannukah as "xahka"? I know that Christmas can be abbreviated "xmas" because "x" stands for Christ (source: http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mxmas.html), but why the "x" in hannukah?
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12-11-2005, 03:27 PM
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I think one of the reasons that some people are getting their feathers ruffled is because this is happening in a lot of other areas too.
There was a big thing on the radio the other day about Target and Walmart stores "strongly encouraging" their employees to NOT say "Merry Christmas" but instead to say "Happy Holidays".
Do non-Christans really get offended if someone told them "Merry Christmas" though? If I were non-Christan, I would probably just smile, nod, and be on my way. I wouldn't be so offended to boycott Target or anything.
I've also noticed that more and more schools go on "winter break" instead of "Christmas break" (maybe it's just the area I live in, but when I was younger it was always "Christmas break").
I guess in a way they are trying to seperate the state from religious-type stuff?
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