2005 Heisman

amycat412 · #1 12-07-2005, 09:14 PM

And the finalists are...

Reggie Bush, USC
Matt Leinart, USC
Vince Young, Texas

BobbyTheDon · #2 12-07-2005, 09:27 PM

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Originally posted by amycat412
And the finalists are...

Reggie Bush, USC
Matt Leinart, USC
Vince Young, Texas

thats it? Anyone else?

Young can cry and say downplay Reggie all he wants. We all know Reggie changes the game.

Fight on and hook those cows.

(Yeah, its on now! let the smack talk begin...chumps)

tinydancer · #3 12-07-2005, 09:38 PM

As badly as I would love for Vince to win it, I think Reggie is just scary good. I hadn't gotten to watch USC much, but he impressed me in the last game.

amycat412 · #4 12-07-2005, 09:39 PM

Oh its defintely Reggie's.

I think its cool though that ALL the Heisman finalists will be playing in the same game come Rose Bowl time.

tinydancer · #5 12-07-2005, 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by amycat412
I think its cool though that ALL the Heisman finalists will be playing in the same game come Rose Bowl time.

Oh, I agree! This may be the one and only time the BCS got it right.

KSigkid · #6 12-07-2005, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by amycat412
Oh its defintely Reggie's.

I think its cool though that ALL the Heisman finalists will be playing in the same game come Rose Bowl time.

I didn't even think about that - that is cool that they're all playing.

I'm guessing Reggie will win, but I'll be interested to see the final vote totals.

Kevin · #7 12-08-2005, 02:08 AM

And the Heisman winner's team has historically (sure as hell not last year) not fared well.

KSigkid · #8 12-08-2005, 08:00 AM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
And the Heisman winner's team has historically (sure as hell not last year) not fared well.

Historically they haven't, but they won the title last year, and the year before had a share of the title (Carson Palmer at USC two years ago, and Leinert last year).

Kevin · #9 12-08-2005, 10:27 AM

Carson Palmer didn't win the NC -- LSU did.

<--- see where I'm from? Do not try and convince me otherwise.

KSigkid · #10 12-08-2005, 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
Carson Palmer didn't win the NC -- LSU did.

<--- see where I'm from? Do not try and convince me otherwise.

Haha, ok - but didn't USC get a share of the title that year? Didn't they finish tops in one of the polls? I'm not a huge college football fan, so I could definitely be wrong.

amycat412 · #11 12-08-2005, 03:48 PM

Yes. We won the AP Nat'l Championship that year. As we were #1 an AP and BCS going into the selection and were passed over for BCS title game.

We won our Rose Bowl and remained on top of the AP and got that National Title.

The BCS is in no way perfect, so let's not pretend it is.

There is an asterick next to LSU's BCS and USC's AP title from that year and it says "shared championship". Which is what the BCS was created to prevent and failed to do so that year. The BCS is supposed to have #1 and #2 team play, which would have been USC and LSU. Instead #2 and #3 played.

Kevin · #12 12-08-2005, 04:23 PM

The AP component of the BCS was only one of the items used in the calculation. Oklahoma and LSU were #1 and #2 respectively. USC was #3.

If you watched the Sugar Bowl, though Oklahoma limped in, it was a good game.

USC had the AP National Championship, but the only real one is the BCS.

Considering where we're both from, I don't think either of us is going to convince the other though. I'm satisfied with agreeing to disagree. I just wanted to make my objections known

amycat412 · #13 12-08-2005, 05:55 PM

USC was #3 in the final standings. They were #1 going into the selection of bowls.

Oh we can agree to disagree. BUT, lol

The BCS was designed to eliminate split championships, and that year, they failed.

Kevin · #14 12-08-2005, 06:15 PM

? The BCS only declared one champion.

amycat412 · #15 12-08-2005, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
? The BCS only declared one champion.

lol As did the AP.

I was just reading a texas fan blog and OH MY. lol that was amusing.