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Old 11-30-2005, 02:05 PM
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'Doonesbury' Shows Bush Defending Frat Torture

'Doonesbury' Strip Showing Bush Defending Frat Torture at Yale is 'Fact-Based,' Says Garry Trudeau


By Dave Astor - Editor & Publisher

Published: November 29, 2005 8:00 AM ET

NEW YORK Was this past Sunday's "Doonesbury" -- which had George W. Bush defending the burning of Yale University fraternity initiates with a brand in 1967 -- fact or fiction?

"Totally fact-based," replied Garry Trudeau, in response to an E&P e-mail query. "Bush's comment in panel seven is a direct quote, which is why I put it in quotation marks. In the original Yale Daily News expose, we ran a photo of a pledge's seared backside."

Trudeau, a Yale grad, added: "I did a week on this in the strip back during the 2000 election. The reason I revisited the episode is that it's gained in relevance with the president's reluctance to forego torture in intelligence-gathering."

The branding, which was exposed by the Yale paper, was first covered by The New York Times in a Nov. 8, 1967, article. Trudeau much later told Rolling Stone in an interview that he drew his first editorial cartoon for the Yale Daily News during the branding controversy.

According to that 1967 Times article, "The charge that has caused the most controversy on the Yale campus is that Delta Kappa Epsilon applied a 'hot branding iron' to the small of the back of its 40 new members in the shape of the Greek letter Delta, approximately a half inch wide, appeared with the article." It added that a former president of Delta revealed that "the branding is done with a hot coathanger. But the former president, George Bush, a Yale senior, said that the resulting wound is 'only a cigarette burn.'"

This week's Sunday strip (http://www.ucomics.com/doonesbury/2005/11/27/) shows the Mark Slackmeyer character mentioning that Bush's alleged support of torture has roots in 1967 Yale. The Universal Press Syndicate-distributed comic then switches back in time to show screams emanating from the true-life Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity.

"The student paper breaks the story: DKE has been branding their pledges on their backsides with red-hot coathangers," Slackmeyer narrates. "DKE President George W. Bush defends the branding ritual in statements to the press."

The collegiate Bush is then quoted in panel seven as saying: "Insignificant! There's no scarring mark physically or mentally!"

In the eighth and last panel, Slackmeyer is shown again in 2005 as he says: "The rest is history. This has been 'Defining Moments in Torture'!" And the present-day Bush, sitting in the White House, says: "Human pyramids? Hell, I did those as a cheerleader!"
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:39 PM
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I miss Doonesbury, our stupid conservative paper (Voted the worst in the Nation, thanks Gaylord!) won't carry it, no matter how many letters they get asking for it.
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:49 PM
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I miss Doonesbury, our stupid conservative paper (Voted the worst in the Nation, thanks Gaylord!) won't carry it, no matter how many letters they get asking for it.
You can read it at http://news.yahoo.com/comics, along with a lot of other comics and political cartoons.
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:48 PM
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Doonesbury is gay. I'd rather have Hagar the Horrible back in my school paper. The DA here is a liberal paradise and with the exception of the crossword and bar ads isn't worth toilet paper. Most of the student body hates it.
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Old 12-01-2005, 01:18 PM
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Doonesbury is gay. I'd rather have Hagar the Horrible back in my school paper. The DA here is a liberal paradise and with the exception of the crossword and bar ads isn't worth toilet paper. Most of the student body hates it.
Really? It's GAY? Is it a "rump ranger," to quote Mr. Conard? Does it lisp at the other cartoons?
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Old 12-01-2005, 01:46 PM
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Really? It's GAY? Is it a "rump ranger," to quote Mr. Conard? Does it lisp at the other cartoons?
Most importantly, I think the issue is whether it is attracted to other cartoons of the same gender.

The rule is that when something is attracted to another thing of the same gender, that thing is gay.

In application, a cartoon is something which is asexual, so the rule cannot be properly applied.

In conclusion, cartoons due to their lack of either being male or female cannot be gay. Further, the cartoon is not gay.
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Old 12-02-2005, 09:44 AM
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I saw it Sunday morning and almost spit out my cereal. I love Doonsbury
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Old 12-04-2005, 12:57 PM
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Give Me Hagar!!!!

I must be to conservative when it comes to Duumbsbury!

Or should I be Liberal to read it?
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Old 12-04-2005, 05:14 PM
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Give Me Hagar!!!!

I must be to conservative when it comes to Duumbsbury!

Or should I be Liberal to read it?
No, I just think you have to be smart and open-minded.
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Old 12-05-2005, 10:24 AM
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...or more likely, bitter and jaded.
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:26 PM
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...or more likely, bitter and jaded.
haha!
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