Flight 93

honeychile · #1 01-31-2006, 12:06 AM

Flight 93 debuted on A&E tonight, even though most of the reviewers panned it.

I found it terribly interesting, and that it put a few things into perspective that I had questions about prior to the movie. Yes, it pulls on the heartstrings big time, but these people were the first people to fight against the terrorists.

I willingly admit that it had a lot of personal meaning to me, as my then-fiance had just heard "south of Pittsburgh" and since my phone was out that day, we didn't talk until after 11pm that night. I also live in the military flight path, and all that night, I kept hearing the military planes heading towards Washington.

If you're interested in History, especially the recent history of this century, curl up with a box of tissues, and watch it. If A&E schedules as per usual, you'll have dozens of chances in the next weeks!

KillarneyRose · #2 01-31-2006, 01:25 AM

You know, part of me really wanted to see this but the other part thought it was too soon to get such an intimate look into peoples' last minutes alive (even if they were actors).

Maybe in a few years.

I still haven't been able to watch "Blackhawk Down"

honeychile · #3 01-31-2006, 01:53 AM

I understand. As young as I was when it happened, I haven't watched Platoon because of my brother.

I have to admit, I admire their bravery - forced or not - so much. I don't know what I would do if a loved one called me from a plane that had been hijacked, knowing what else was happening.

A little levity: My daddy, brother & sister-in-law were golfing that day, about 50 miles away from Shankstown. When the Towers were hit, my mother (she & I were working that day) called my daddy on his cell, saying what had happened. Then, when the Pentagon was hit (and at the time, we knew a lot of people who worked there), she called him again. Then, she called to say that a plane was nearing Pittsburgh, and my SIL (she'd get along with KR's MIL!) said, "Are you going to talk on the phone all day or golf?" as my brother grabbed the phone off of my daddy & asked what the big fuss was. The shadow of Flight 93 passed over them about then. The rest is history.

But my SIL will NEVER, EVER live down, "Are you going to talk on the phone all day or play golf?"!!! Nor will I ever let her!

Just the week before, I had been in Fairfax, and had an interesting conversation with a Fairfax fireman. That night, as they were showing the footage of the burning Pentagon, I saw him, filthy black from all the smoke, sitting with a few other firemen, exhausted - and they all had tears running down their faces. I'm pleased to say that he was all right, and that I got a great article out of it!

#4 01-31-2006, 02:51 AM

I saw it ad i thought the same thing....way to soon, but it is true they are the first to begin the fight agaisnt terroisism. They diverted that plane from taking out the white house and they should all be considered and labeled heros. I had the entire box of kleenex by my side and beleive i left 2-3 sheets left.

I also remember the first few nights afterwards i lived right outside of LA and LAX not far away ...all i heard in a still quiet night military jets patrolling the airways up above in a military path as well.

DeltAlum · #5 01-31-2006, 10:37 AM

I understand the reason for your comments, but the fight against terrorism started long before 9/11. It has been going on for many years, but the 9/11 event itself seems like some kind of beginning. In fact, it wasn't even the first terrorist attack on the World Trade Center.

Even in this particular case, I would argue that people like the air traffic controllers began the fight earlier -- although there wasn't much they could do and confusion thwarted their efforts.

That is not to take anything at all away from the brave people on Flight 93, but rather to point out that they weren't the only ones fighting that morning, and that people have been fighting terrorism for many years.

honeychile · #6 01-31-2006, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
I understand the reason for your comments, but the fight against terrorism started long before 9/11. It has been going on for many years, but the 9/11 event itself seems like some kind of beginning. In fact, it wasn't even the first terrorist attack on the World Trade Center.

Even in this particular case, I would argue that people like the air traffic controllers began the fight earlier -- although there wasn't much they could do and confusion thwarted their efforts.

That is not to take anything at all away from the brave people on Flight 93, but rather to point out that they weren't the only ones fighting that morning, and that people have been fighting terrorism for many years.

I would argue that, while the air traffic controllers and a LOT of others fought or died in the war on terror long before Flight 93, they were the first who willingly made the choice to risk their lives - oh, let's face it, they made the choice to die rather than let the terrorists hit their target.

While some would find it depressing, I found myself feeling so proud of those people!

33girl · #7 01-31-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by honeychile
A little levity: My daddy, brother & sister-in-law were golfing that day, about 50 miles away from Shankstown.

Do you mean Shanksville?

If you want to get really ubertechnical, the plane crashed in Lambertsville, but it isn't on the map.

I hadn't heard of this movie, mostly because I've quit watching A & E cause I think their programming has gone into the toilet. Is it a documentary or a fictionalization or what?

honeychile · #8 01-31-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by 33girl
Do you mean Shanksville? If you want to get really ubertechnical, the plane crashed in Lambertsville, but it isn't on the map.

I hadn't heard of this movie, mostly because I've quit watching A & E cause I think their programming has gone into the toilet. Is it a documentary or a fictionalization or what?

I must be catching Alzheimer's from my clients - of course I meant Shanksville! I was told that the plane crashed only a mile from a grade school.

It was a fictionalization which used some of the tapes and some of the survivors. For A&E, it was done well. Like you, I get disgusted with their lack of checking their facts - same with the History Channel. Love them both, but find myself yelling at the tv at times!!

litlbear1072 · #9 01-31-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by honeychile
Flight 93 debuted on A&E tonight, even though most of the reviewers panned it.

I found it terribly interesting, and that it put a few things into perspective that I had questions about prior to the movie. Yes, it pulls on the heartstrings big time, but these people were the first people to fight against the terrorists.

I willingly admit that it had a lot of personal meaning to me, as my then-fiance had just heard "south of Pittsburgh" and since my phone was out that day, we didn't talk until after 11pm that night. I also live in the military flight path, and all that night, I kept hearing the military planes heading towards Washington.

If you're interested in History, especially the recent history of this century, curl up with a box of tissues, and watch it. If A&E schedules as per usual, you'll have dozens of chances in the next weeks!

I didn't watch it last night but as honeychile said it will be on again. I believe it is going to be on Wed. night either at 9 or 10 (can't remember which).

I wasn't sure I was ready to watch it or if it would be worth watching but I think now I will try to catch it.

PM_Mama00 · #10 01-31-2006, 01:19 PM

I wanted to watch it but I was out and forgot to tape it.... but I'm pretty sure it was on a while ago cuz I definitely saw a movie exactly like that a few months ago maybe on the Discovery channel?

I can't tear myself away from 9-11 stuff. My dad's cousin was in the towers and thankfully got out but none of his painting crew did. And the fire dept that were all lost-- those guys used to eat in my uncle's restaurant in Carroll Gardens Brooklyn. I sob when I watch that stuff and read about it because any of my cousins, aunts or uncles could have been there when it happened. But to watch the Flight 93 stuff and hear the actual phone calls and voicemails is just unreal. Those people were so brave! I probably would have had a heart attack.

AlphaSigOU · #11 01-31-2006, 03:08 PM

For obvious legal (and licensing) reasons, they could not use the United Airlines logo, branding and uniforms, though the CGI-generated 757 had the basic UAL colors as worn by Flight 93. (Nice touch... they DID have the proper engines hanging off the 757! (UA uses Rolls-Royce engines on their 757s - RB211-535E4).)

Much of the movie has been dramatized, based on whatever publicly-available conversations and information that has been released over time. The NTSB aircraft accident reports for the four aircraft involved in the 9/11 terrorist attack have not been released either.

SSS1365 · #12 01-31-2006, 04:18 PM

I didn't even know this movie existed until I saw this thread. I'm interested in seeing it, so I looked up the schedule. I'll probably try to catch it Wednesday night, or Saturday.

Tuesday, Jan. 31
10:00pm

Wednesday, Feb. 1
2:00am
9:00pm

Thursday, Feb. 2
1:00am

Saturday, Feb. 4
12:00pm

damasa · #13 01-31-2006, 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by honeychile
I would argue that, while the air traffic controllers and a LOT of others fought or died in the war on terror long before Flight 93, they were the first who willingly made the choice to risk their lives - oh, let's face it, they made the choice to die rather than let the terrorists hit their target.

While some would find it depressing, I found myself feeling so proud of those people!

I would argue that there have been many before this incident that have willingly made the choice to risk their lives. CIA, FBI, Special ops forces, etc.

I mean, does the majority of the American public truly know what really happened on the flight? No.

We find it quite romantic that a certain number of people would do what was depicted in this special but that's exactly how it was made to look, romantic, patriotic and courageous. Do we even know for a fact that the plane indeed crashed and wasn't shot down by military fighter jets?

Many witnesses seem to think that the latter was what happened that fateful day.

I watched this show and I wasn't ok with it. We'll never truly know how these people were feeling during this horrible time.

In any event, it was hard to watch...

ASUADPi · #14 01-31-2006, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by damasa
[BDo we even know for a fact that the plane indeed crashed and wasn't shot down by military fighter jets?

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Were any fighter jets up at that time? Brianna is going to go pull out her CNN Tribute DVD to find out, because I honestly don't remember.

I'm pretty sure (only like 50%) someone told me that they didn't have jets up at the time. I remember asking (and thinking) that once the planes turned around and they lost communications that they (the planes) should have been taken down. My brother, who is in the military, told me something along the lines that they couldn't get the jets up in time (which suprises me) and that the American public just wasn't ready for the American military to shoot down an American plane, which makes sense then, but we all know now that the moment a plane is "hijacked" that it will be shot down. So who knows.

Just thought I would ask and now I'm babbling because I'm tired.

KunjaPrincess · #15 02-01-2006, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by ASUADPi
Were any fighter jets up at that time? Brianna is going to go pull out her CNN Tribute DVD to find out, because I honestly don't remember.

It depends who you ask. Were there any up based on what the whitehouse wants us to believe or were there any based on what some other people believe.
http://www.freedomunderground.org/me...tagon.php#Main
Note, i am not saying the video is the truth either :-)