U.S. hopes to win hearts in Pakistan

[jubilance1922]

I truly feel for these people, and they definately need help. My only concern is that it took FOUR days to get help to the victims of Katrina, yet only TWO to help a separate country. How is that possible? Shouldn't we be continuing to help the victims we have here (many of whom are still homeless/jobless/etc.)?

RAWALPINDI, Pakistan - Eight American helicopters that will carry supplies and rescue teams to remote areas hit by a weekend earthquake landed here Monday as the United States pledged $50 million for relief in a gesture that officials hope will show sometimes skeptical Pakistanis that Washington is a true ally.

Two days after the disaster, rescue teams and supplies have arrived from at least 10 countries with everything from jerry cans and tarpaulins to Blackhawk choppers for heavy lifting and high-tech cameras for finding buried survivors.

Pakistani authorities, usually sticklers for immigration formalities, issued seven-day visas on entry for relief workers, who flew into military and civilian airstrips around Rawalpindi, near the capital of Islamabad, before heading to devastated northern regions.

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Death toll estimates ranged from 20,000 to above 30,000, with more than 2.5 million homeless, in what officials are describing as the worst disaster to face this Islamic nation since it was founded 58 years ago.

Despite the efforts, many victims remain beyond help’s reach in extremely remote mountain villages, or in areas that can’t seek assistance because communications are out.

“The magnitude of this disaster is utterly overwhelming,” Ambassador Ryan Crocker said as he received a U.S. transport plane full of blankets, plastic sheets and jerry cans. “We have under way the beginning of a very major relief effort.”

Window of opportunity
In the past two days, aid missions have arrived from Britain, South Korea, Turkey, Spain, Iran, Russia, the Netherlands, the United Arab Emirates, Japan and Germany. Rescue experts face a closing window of opportunity to locate survivors.

On Monday, Malaysia donated $1 million, Italy said it was sending a field hospital and Singapore a search-and-rescue team. Indonesia and France planned to fly in medics, and Australia increased its aid pledge tenfold to $4.2 million.

Eight U.S. military helicopters — five Chinooks and three Blackhawks — touched down with a whoosh of dust from coalition bases from neighboring Afghanistan, diverted from action in the war on terror. The choppers will help ferry supplies and rescue teams to areas inaccessible by road because of landslides.

“There is a great need here with the damage and the destruction that has been done by this earthquake, and it’s very important for the U.S. government and the U.S. military in Afghanistan to provide assistance to them,” said U.S. military spokesman Col. James Yonts.

Coalition commander Lt. Gen. Karl Eikenberry also held talks with Pakistan military officials Monday to see what further assistance they might need.

Sensitive situation
Although Pakistan has for the past four years allowed the use of its bases for logistical support of the U.S. military operations against Taliban and al-Qaida rebels in Afghanistan, it’s unusual for American aircraft to fly in Pakistan.

The government, faced with strong domestic opposition to the U.S.-led war on terrorism, does not allow U.S. forces to operate on its soil.

Pakistani political analyst Rusul Bakhsh Rais said that despite the sensitivities, the sight of American helicopters helping with the relief effort and flying quake victims would probably have a more lasting, positive impact on Pakistanis than contributions of money and aid.

The U.S. ambassador said America’s swift response and grant of $50 million in emergency aid — by far the largest single contribution to the international aid effort so far — reflected its “long-term strategic relationship” with Pakistan.

“That means when crisis hits an ally, we step forward to help,” Crocker said.

But Rais, a professor at the Lahore University of Management Sciences, said the United States had spoiled the impact by initially offering just $100,000 in aid, which was mocked by some Pakistanis as inadequate.

“The initial announcement was a joke,” said Rais. “Every move of the United States is judged here on political grounds. It was a rare opportunity for the United States to show that it’s a true friend of Pakistan.”

Deep resentment
Many Pakistanis harbor deep resentment over the invasion of Afghanistan, the Iraq war and scandals over alleged abuse of Islam’s holy book, the Quran, at the U.S. detention center for terror suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Crocker hinted that the American aid could help improve perceptions of the United States in this Islamic nation of 150 million.

“Certainly that was true with the tsunami relief effort,” Crocker said, referring to the warm reception given to the U.S. military by victims of the deadly waves that ravaged Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim nation, in December.

In Kabul, a U.S. military spokeswoman, put it more bluntly.

“The terrorists make us out as the infidels, but this is not true and we hope this mission will show that,” Sgt. Marina Evans told The Associated Press.

© 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

[Rudey]

Well I think sending 8 helicopters and pledging $50 million (not even giving) is a tiny fraction of what we have and will use for Katrina.

-Rudey

Originally posted by jubilance1922
I truly feel for these people, and they definately need help. My only concern is that it took FOUR days to get help to the victims of Katrina, yet only TWO to help a separate country. How is that possible? Shouldn't we be continuing to help the victims we have here (many of whom are still homeless/jobless/etc.)?

RAWALPINDI, Pakistan - Eight American helicopters that will carry supplies and rescue teams to remote areas hit by a weekend earthquake landed here Monday as the United States pledged $50 million for relief in a gesture that officials hope will show sometimes skeptical Pakistanis that Washington is a true ally.

Two days after the disaster, rescue teams and supplies have arrived from at least 10 countries with everything from jerry cans and tarpaulins to Blackhawk choppers for heavy lifting and high-tech cameras for finding buried survivors.

Pakistani authorities, usually sticklers for immigration formalities, issued seven-day visas on entry for relief workers, who flew into military and civilian airstrips around Rawalpindi, near the capital of Islamabad, before heading to devastated northern regions.

Story continues below ↓
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Death toll estimates ranged from 20,000 to above 30,000, with more than 2.5 million homeless, in what officials are describing as the worst disaster to face this Islamic nation since it was founded 58 years ago.

Despite the efforts, many victims remain beyond help’s reach in extremely remote mountain villages, or in areas that can’t seek assistance because communications are out.

“The magnitude of this disaster is utterly overwhelming,” Ambassador Ryan Crocker said as he received a U.S. transport plane full of blankets, plastic sheets and jerry cans. “We have under way the beginning of a very major relief effort.”

Window of opportunity
In the past two days, aid missions have arrived from Britain, South Korea, Turkey, Spain, Iran, Russia, the Netherlands, the United Arab Emirates, Japan and Germany. Rescue experts face a closing window of opportunity to locate survivors.

On Monday, Malaysia donated $1 million, Italy said it was sending a field hospital and Singapore a search-and-rescue team. Indonesia and France planned to fly in medics, and Australia increased its aid pledge tenfold to $4.2 million.

Eight U.S. military helicopters — five Chinooks and three Blackhawks — touched down with a whoosh of dust from coalition bases from neighboring Afghanistan, diverted from action in the war on terror. The choppers will help ferry supplies and rescue teams to areas inaccessible by road because of landslides.

“There is a great need here with the damage and the destruction that has been done by this earthquake, and it’s very important for the U.S. government and the U.S. military in Afghanistan to provide assistance to them,” said U.S. military spokesman Col. James Yonts.

Coalition commander Lt. Gen. Karl Eikenberry also held talks with Pakistan military officials Monday to see what further assistance they might need.

Sensitive situation
Although Pakistan has for the past four years allowed the use of its bases for logistical support of the U.S. military operations against Taliban and al-Qaida rebels in Afghanistan, it’s unusual for American aircraft to fly in Pakistan.

The government, faced with strong domestic opposition to the U.S.-led war on terrorism, does not allow U.S. forces to operate on its soil.

Pakistani political analyst Rusul Bakhsh Rais said that despite the sensitivities, the sight of American helicopters helping with the relief effort and flying quake victims would probably have a more lasting, positive impact on Pakistanis than contributions of money and aid.

The U.S. ambassador said America’s swift response and grant of $50 million in emergency aid — by far the largest single contribution to the international aid effort so far — reflected its “long-term strategic relationship” with Pakistan.

“That means when crisis hits an ally, we step forward to help,” Crocker said.

But Rais, a professor at the Lahore University of Management Sciences, said the United States had spoiled the impact by initially offering just $100,000 in aid, which was mocked by some Pakistanis as inadequate.

“The initial announcement was a joke,” said Rais. “Every move of the United States is judged here on political grounds. It was a rare opportunity for the United States to show that it’s a true friend of Pakistan.”

Deep resentment
Many Pakistanis harbor deep resentment over the invasion of Afghanistan, the Iraq war and scandals over alleged abuse of Islam’s holy book, the Quran, at the U.S. detention center for terror suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Crocker hinted that the American aid could help improve perceptions of the United States in this Islamic nation of 150 million.

“Certainly that was true with the tsunami relief effort,” Crocker said, referring to the warm reception given to the U.S. military by victims of the deadly waves that ravaged Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim nation, in December.

In Kabul, a U.S. military spokeswoman, put it more bluntly.

“The terrorists make us out as the infidels, but this is not true and we hope this mission will show that,” Sgt. Marina Evans told The Associated Press.

© 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by Rudey
Well I think sending 8 helicopters and pledging $50 million (not even giving) is a tiny fraction of what we have and will use for Katrina.

-Rudey

I don't disagree with that. But to me, its a huge hypocrisy. How can we not get aid to our own citizens in a reasonable amount of time, yet we can do it for a country halfway across the world?

[lifesaver]

Not that we even need too. General Pervez Musharraf has us over a barrel. If we want his help looking for Al-Queda, we have to give him what he wants. What we've already given him (debt forgiveness, loans, military training and equipment) far exceeds this $50 million and a few helicopters.

And he's gonna keep demanding and getting more too...

[Rudey]

Originally posted by jubilance1922
I don't disagree with that. But to me, its a huge hypocrisy. How can we not get aid to our own citizens in a reasonable amount of time, yet we can do it for a country halfway across the world?

We sent much more aid in a quicker amount of time

It took 3 days for us to deliver 8 warfare helicopters used for fighting in the region - and so far the death toll looks worse than Katrina.

We did much more than that in the US in the same amount of time, although still not enough and not quickly enough.

And Bush learned a lesson from the criticism. If he had done nothing, people would say he doesn't care about people dying. Since he did something, you are saying it's a hypocricy. Damned if you do, damned if you don't?

I don't think we are in the business of charity regardless so we need to help our allies and not just think of charity.

-Rudey

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Originally posted by jubilance1922
[B]I truly feel for these people, and they definately need help. My only concern is that it took FOUR days to get help to the victims of Katrina, yet only TWO to help a separate country. How is that possible? Shouldn't we be continuing to help the victims we have here (many of whom are still homeless/jobless/etc.)?

Ahem... don't forget we already have an established presence in Afghanistan - it didn't take very long to task relief missions into Pakistan.

Major reason why it took four days for the Feds to get up off their ass during Katrina was because of the political turf battles that were going on behind the scenes. By the time they got themselves straightened out, New Orleans was already a bathtub.