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Old 08-31-2005, 11:07 PM
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An example of media racial bias

I hate to go there, but this made me mad. Hurricane Katrina affected everyone, but yet - the media wants to make a differienation as to what is what....


When whites break into a grocery store for food, its called "finding"
The "finding" article

When blacks break into a grocery store for food, its called "looting"
The "looting" article

If I could post the pics (before they change) I would.
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Old 08-31-2005, 11:09 PM
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I was just reading about this on the "blackfolk" livejournal community.

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Old 08-31-2005, 11:16 PM
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I guess the White folx "found" stuff that the looters dropped.
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Old 08-31-2005, 11:42 PM
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:39 AM
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Re: An example of media racial bias

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If I could post the pics (before they change) I would.
You can see screen caps here:

White people "finding": http://www.bairey.com/journal/katrina3.jpg
Black people "looting": http://www.bairey.com/journal/katrina1.jpg , http://www.bairey.com/journal/katrina2.jpg

And an interesting MetaFilter thread: http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/44689

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Old 09-01-2005, 12:42 AM
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This is not a surprise......
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:26 AM
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Re: Re: An example of media racial bias

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You can see screen caps here:

White people "finding": http://www.bairey.com/journal/katrina3.jpg
Black people "looting": http://www.bairey.com/journal/katrina1.jpg , http://www.bairey.com/journal/katrina2.jpg

And an interesting MetaFilter thread: http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/44689
Thanks for the last link. It was enlightening. I too thought that both pics and captions had come from the same source, but now that I know different, I am not quite as angry. I will wait and see if AP shows pics of White folx "looting" groceries.

I also agree that I don't consider the taking of groceries, diapers, other basic need items (and yes even liquor) from these stores a bad thing. After all those products will not be sold anytime in the future, and folx need to survive. (And, the liquor is needed for self-medication after such a traumatic experience. But I hope someone doesn't die because they were drunk and thought they could walk on water.)

Now TVs, etc. What the heck. There is no electricity and the units will just get waterlogged anyway, and not work. And where are you going to put them if you have no home??? That to me is just stupid.
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Old 09-01-2005, 08:11 AM
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Re: Re: Re: An example of media racial bias

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Thanks for the last link. It was enlightening. I too thought that both pics and captions had come from the same source, but now that I know different, I am not quite as angry. I will wait and see if AP shows pics of White folx "looting" groceries.

I also agree that I don't consider the taking of groceries, diapers, other basic need items (and yes even liquor) from these stores a bad thing. After all those products will not be sold anytime in the future, and folx need to survive. (And, the liquor is needed for self-medication after such a traumatic experience. But I hope someone doesn't die because they were drunk and thought they could walk on water.)

Now TVs, etc. What the heck. There is no electricity and the units will just get waterlogged anyway, and not work. And where are you going to put them if you have no home??? That to me is just stupid.
I feel you. Plus, if they keep it up (stealing useless junk instead of leaving the city) they will end up dead....clutching a TV or DVD player.

But Im still bothered but I should be use to it, right?
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Old 09-02-2005, 10:00 AM
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Re: Re: Re: An example of media racial bias

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Thanks for the last link. It was enlightening. I too thought that both pics and captions had come from the same source, but now that I know different, I am not quite as angry. I will wait and see if AP shows pics of White folx "looting" groceries.
I won't dismiss it quite as easily. The sentence structure in the second cutline is so awkward as to really make you wonder? How are you gon just "find" bread at the local grocery store? Try that today and most likely you will "find" your azz in jail somewhere. This example does suggest a media bias at play here.

If it's looting, then it's looting no matter who is doing it. period.

...and memo to President Bush and whatever cabinet delegation may be flying to visit the Gulf Coast region today. Before yall roll out, please load up Air Force One with aid workers and supplies/food, and distribute them to these people while you are there.

Really, we're what, 5 days into this? The glaring absence of an effective implementation is alarming.
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Old 09-02-2005, 10:34 AM
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Primetime talked about these pictures last night. It's disgusting but I'm not surprised. The majority of the people I've seen on tv are Black so it was only a matter of time til they started protraying us as animals.
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Old 09-02-2005, 10:57 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: An example of media racial bias

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I won't dismiss it quite as easily. The sentence structure in the second cutline is so awkward as to really make you wonder? How are you gon just "find" bread at the local grocery store?
By turning left at the dairy section?

There was an article in the San Francisco Chronicle a day or so ago that interviewed a woman who was seeking refuge in the Ritz Carlton. In the article, the woman mentioned that the hotel staff urged the guests to loot the neighboring stores as they ran out of resources.

The problem is, of course, if those people look at TV and see people who look like them committing the crimes, it becomes a bit more difficult to remain detached from the events. They'll have to start caring if they start seeing pale looters on their televisions.
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:09 AM
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The more I watched Primetime and Nightline (with Ted Koppell) the angrier I got - Bush and his administration are STILL not willing to admit that they have not responded in a timely manner. FEMA claimed there were 15,000 people at the Superdome & the mayor has been saying from jump it was 25,000 or more. When the representative from FEMA tried to say "well we just confirmed today how many people were really there" Ted Koppell dug his foot so far up his behind I think ole boy will be standing for the next two weeks.

Its scary to me the double talk that this administration will do to justify their short sighted decisions.

-they will not acknowledge how many people have been stranded

-when Diane Sawyer questioned Bush about people looting BECASUE THEY ARE HUNGRY he refuses to acknowledge that FEMA is not reaching everyone and is enforcing the shoot first rule.

-when the man from FEMA tried to say "well we can't be responsible when people don't follow evacuation orders" Koppell shot back HOW are people without cars or money to rent hotel rooms suppossed to leave if the GUARD wasn't available to provide buses,trains,boats, flat bed trucks for them to leave on??

- The money to upkeep and strengthen the levy was taken away in the last round of budget cuts in order to support Bush's war (I wonder how those states that benefited from the pork with nonsensical "needs" feel now? Hope they give back doublefold.

- The National Guard that should have been the first responders to assist with the evacuation are currently stationed in Iraq/Afghanistan (over 50%) - there was no plan in place despite repeated requests on how guards from other states would be depolyed in a state of emergency. Now days later they are still on the way & the federal government is trying to lay blame on city/state officials for not being able to handle the evacuation properly.

-Koppel brought up race (was it an issue in why it was taking so long)- FEMA denied it but you can't tell me if a tornado hit the Hamptons or an earthquake hit Orange County where the majority of the victims were white that the response would not have been better.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out for the current adminstration. Seeing their families not being taken care of is MORE demoralizing than anything any anti war protestors could say to the troops.

I SO miss Peter Jennings right now...but so far his colleagues at ABC seem to be holding it down.
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:16 AM
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I'm going to take a 'wait and see' approach. I'll do my best to remain both patient and prayerful. My prayers will go out to the victims, the survivors and the displaced. My patience will go out to the rest of the world and I will bide my time and wait to see if the world (including those in America) will do right by 'us' in our time of need.

As the death toll rises and my television set becomes more and more inundated…wait…bad choice of words...

As my television set becomes overwhelmed with images of people…Black people living atop freeways and rooftops with their life's belongings in a little plastic bag alongside them, I remain fearful.

I fear the possibility that the tremendous and immediate response to reach out to the tsunami victims on that side of the world will not be duplicated for the victims of hurricane Katrina on this side. I sense a lukewarm relief effort and I pray to God that I'm wrong.

Yet, already I see the disparate treatment starting. In pictures of Black people afloat with items next to them, they are invariably characterized as looters. In virtually identical pictures with White people making their way through the water, the caption characterizes them as people who've 'found' their respective items. (see pictures below)

When I turn on talk radio, far too much time is spent discussing how the residents in the gulf region (mind you majority African-American) were 'warned' and could've/should've evacuated.

The anger inside me grows exponentially because I think I've heard this song before and already know the words. There won't be the unbridled outpouring of support and aid relative to our support for Iraqis or the victims of the tsunami. I fear that we'll do everything in our power to 'liberate' Iraqis and something else far short of that to save African-American hurricane survivors. I pray to God I'm wrong on all accounts.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not comparing disasters. I'm merely acknowledging the likelihood of disparate, discriminate and ultimately inequitable response to said disasters.

Damnit, I want to see telethons, public service announcements, presidential speeches and most important a ish-load of money on its way to save these people.

My people.

It's during moments like these that I wish I was something more than a writer. Writers change the world over time; one word at a time. But my people who've fallen victim to hurricane Katrina don't need a writer; they need much more than that and far quicker in nature. That fact isn't lost on me.

The gulf region is a relatively economically depressed region. No…check that, it is for the most part a destitute region. It has been that way since the period of reconstruction after the civil war. I say that to say, a warning could have gone out that a nuclear warhead was going to detonate on Friday at 8:05 pm and the result would have been the same.

These people had nowhere to go.

Many did not have cars, the wherewithal or even a destination in which to go. How often do you hear of a multiple generations of a family living within 10 square miles of each other…if not the very same house? In the 'hood, it's very common. It's the definition of abject poverty. You can't leave, your children can't leave and very likely their children will not either. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever. Don't expect that to change in a moment's notice, crisis or not. What is one to do…walk to Arkansas? That's about the only option as buying a plane ticket to California and making sure your house insurance is current is likely not an option if you're a 3rd generation resident of Gulfport MS.

A similar parallel can be drawn between this disaster and the genocide in the Darfur region of the Sudan. Political pundits asked why the majority of the indigenous people remained, even long after the genocide began.

It's very simple. Where were they to go? And how were they to get there? Those who 'could' go, ended up WALKING to the neighboring country of Chad. If it were a hurricane like in New Orleans, those who chose to walk would've been wiped out, regardless. Many waited months to decide to finally trek the many hundreds miles in most cases to reach the border.

Those who 'could' leave New Orleans surely did. Don't insult my intelligence. And those in Mississippi didn't even know what hit them.

Let's not forget that even up until the eve of hurricane Katrina reaching New Orleans, public reports were that it likely was not a storm that would travel far enough inland or wreak as much havoc as it ultimately did. The subsequent yet subtle characterization of those who died in the storm as being somehow 'stupid' for not evacuating is sickening and envelops me in anger.

I don't condone the subsequent looting, but neither do I condone the subsequent lunacy that would try to lessen the scope of this tragedy or the aid it necessitates.

I'm going to take a wait and see approach. I'll do my best to remain both patient and prayerful. My prayers will go out to the victims, the survivors and the displaced. My patience will go out to the rest of the world and I will bide my time and wait to see if the world (including those in America will do right by 'us' in our time of need. I hope America will prove me wrong and I pray for the restoration of those victimized by this disaster.

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Old 09-02-2005, 11:32 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: An example of media racial bias

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By turning left at the dairy section?

There was an article in the San Francisco Chronicle a day or so ago that interviewed a woman who was seeking refuge in the Ritz Carlton. In the article, the woman mentioned that the hotel staff urged the guests to loot the neighboring stores as they ran out of resources.

The problem is, of course, if those people look at TV and see people who look like them committing the crimes, it becomes a bit more difficult to remain detached from the events. They'll have to start caring if they start seeing pale looters on their televisions.
Bing, bing, bing.
But I'm not surprised. I've been a reporter for roughly 16 years and it shows who's running news desks and such. I wonder if there will be some repercussions in terms of the caption. For years, the AP had "diversity programs" and this can't help that cause.
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:48 AM
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Sorry for hijacking your thread but after reading the postings I decided to e-mail the AP to ask them about the racial bias with the pictures and articles. I'm sure I probably will not receive an e-mail back but at least I let them know about there media difference.

Maybe they will remove it if enough people write in to complain. The e-mail address is feedback@ap.org
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