PRUSH vs SORUSH

adpiucf · #1 09-07-2003, 03:08 PM

Pro-Con on these two programs?

PRUSH means the PNM's rank the chapters before seeing invites, SORUSH means they see all invites and choose.

Do you think it is better for PNM's to rank the chapters first before they know where they have been invited, or is it better that they be given a list of invites and then choose? What are your thoughts?

astroAPhi · #2 09-07-2003, 04:00 PM

I would think it would be better to let the girls see the invites and then choose. It puts them a little more in perspective about where they actually fit in. And I would think it would lessen heavy cutting, resulting in more girls being given bids.

valkyrie · #3 09-07-2003, 04:03 PM

I agree with what astroAPhi says about how seeing invites first helps PNMs keep things in perspective. What's the point of having a PNM rank sororities only to find that she has only been invited back to, say, two of them?

DZHBrown · #4 09-07-2003, 04:06 PM

I definitely think SORUSH is the way to go. A PNM may love them all, but she has to cut one. So she does, gets her invites back and sees that someone else cut her and she didn't have to cut the other group. Does that make any sense at all? Sorry if it doesn't.

DeltaBetaBaby · #5 09-07-2003, 04:10 PM

To clarify how PRUSH works:

The PNM's rank the houses, but they do not "cut" any of them. She puts as many #1 ranks as she can go back to the next round. She then does 2,3,4,5, etc. So if one of her #1 houses does not invite her back, she then goes to her #2 choice.

KappaKittyCat · #6 09-07-2003, 04:52 PM

DeltaBetaBaby, then am I correct in assuming that part of PRUSH is that PNMs return to the maximum number of houses allowed for that day?

honeychile · #7 09-07-2003, 08:39 PM

PRUSH is more like bid matching that SORUSH. I think it's less stress on the PNM in the long run.

DeltaBetaBaby · #8 09-07-2003, 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by KappaKittyCat
DeltaBetaBaby, then am I correct in assuming that part of PRUSH is that PNMs return to the maximum number of houses allowed for that day?

Yes, unless their total number of invites is less than that.

KappaKittyCat · #9 09-08-2003, 08:13 AM

But if you kept track of your rankings, wouldn't you be able to figure out who invited you back from your invite list? I mean, if I ranked ABC and XYZ number one and DE number two and I was invited to XYZ and DE, then wouldn't it make sense that ABC cut me?

Honestly, the debate seems rather academic to me. At a bigger school especially, PRUSH just makes more sense. It'd be far more efficient.

(edited for clarification and typos)

sugar and spice · #10 09-08-2003, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by KappaKittyCat
But if you kept track of your rankings, wouldn't you be able to figure out who invited you back from your invite list? I mean, if I ranked ABC and XYZ number one and DE number two and I was invited to XYZ and DE, then wouldn't it make sense that ABC cut me?

To an extent that is true. But in your case, if you ranked ABC and XYZ number one and DE number two, and were only allowed to go back to two houses, if you went back to ABC and XYZ, you wouldn't know whether or not DE invited you back.

However, since you ranked them last, you probably wouldn't care too much.

I think SORUSH is nice for the schools that can do it, because it allows the "Decline with interest" option for an invitation, but PRUSH is simply more efficient and easier for schools with a lot of rushees coming through (and especially for schools like mine where rush is during school and most of Panhel has things, like, oh, classes to worry about).

carnation · #11 09-08-2003, 05:29 PM

It seems like PRush would be really hard on a PNM at a big school like Georgia because she'd spend forever trying to rank 18 houses she only saw briefly--trying to remember which was which--and then maybe half of them would cut her and there went all that effort for nothing.

IvySpice · #12 09-08-2003, 05:58 PM

How awful to be a SORUSH PNM who was cut from all the houses but 2 after the first round and have to see that the girl next to you got five more invites than the seven she's allowed to accept. It hard enough to keep your chin up after being severely cut. Why make the inevitable contrast between popular and unpopular PNMs even more pronounced than it needs to be? The popular PNM will be fine whether she knows that her least favorite houses invited her back or not; it's the cut ones I think we ought to be worried about.

Ivy

adpiucf · #13 09-08-2003, 06:25 PM

When I went through recruitment, we had seven chapters and used PRUSH. Now, there are ten chapters and they use SORUSH.

I don't know which is better--- I was able to rank the chapters according to my liking at the end of each day-- we would leave the houses and make notes to ourselves; there were clearly chapters that stood out from others to each PNM. As a PX, my school has switched programs and used SORUSH, and I remember it seemed like a bit of an unnecessary exercise to have to assemble to PNM's very early in the morning to give them their invites, have them determine which they would accept, turn the invites back in, and get a schedule to give them 4 hours later.

PRUSH worked well for me as a PNM--- I ranked the chapters as I saw them-- if I wasn't invited back, I knew I had been cut, and there were chapters I ranked a little lower on that list that I would attend. I think SORUSH can have pros and cons-- you get to choose from a list of "sure things" as to where you want to go, but with PRUSH you are truly ranking the chapters in YOUR order of preference.

bruinaphi · #14 09-08-2003, 07:06 PM

NPC does not advocate using a priority rush system b/c it encourages the ranking of sororities as well as unreasonable expectations among the PNMs about where they'll be invited back. That being said, I went through a priority rush system and my college tried using an invitation system my junior year. It was a nightmare with the tight schedule we adhere to during recruitment. Panhellenic went back to priority rush the next year.

absolutuscchick · #15 09-08-2003, 07:09 PM

I don't know....when i rushed at USC we had PRUSH, but at ASU we had SORUSH and I think it is hard. FOr girls who don't have an opinion yet, it makes it that much harder with the PRUSH idea, however if you know right away, its better because then you are able to rank the ones you don't like lower and those you loved higher....less work for you. I personally preferred SORUSH though!!