Prejudism

PM_Mama00 · #1 06-09-2002, 11:29 AM

Please do not think that I am racist for posting this article and agreeing with the wife of the victim. I think it's great that the wife realizes this problem.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/det/ne...07-170622.html

Couple Accuses Teens Of Ethnic Intimidation
Inkster Family Says They're Being Forced To Move
Posted: 6:42 p.m. EDT June 7, 2002
Updated: 7:23 p.m. EDT June 7, 2002

INKSTER, Mich.-- An Inkster couple is moving after allegedly receiving a series of racially motivated threats, Local 4 reported Friday. Three 14-year-old girls were taken into custody Thursday night . They have been charged with trespassing and ethnic intimidation for allegedly directing slurs at Robert Bielaczyc, who is white.

Parties Involved Tell Their Stories

Bielaczyc told Local 4 that a group of black teens in his neighborhood have repeatedly directed slurs and derogatory remarks at him, and that a man in the area threatened to kill him.

"I know sooner or later I'll be dead," Bielaczyc told Local 4.

The three girls were arrested after an incident Thursday night. Bielaczyc said that the girls walked across his corner lot and he took their pictures, then warned them not to trespass. That's when he said slurs were hurled at him.

The girls, who were not identified because they are minors, said that they also heard the slurs but are not responsible for them. They said that a group of boys nearby shouted the insults at Bielaczyc.

The Bielaczycs have several complaints on file with the Inkster police, including one that came after a car was driven across their lawn, leaving deep tire treads behind. The couple has been pressing police for more protection.

Inkster police Sgt. Tom Diaz said that the department has been sending a car by the couple's home once an hour to check on them and their property. He said the department will continue to do so until the problem is addressed.

Pamela Bielaczyc, who is African-American, said that if the situation were reversed and her husband stood in front of their house yelling racial insults at blacks, he would probably be in jail.

The couple told Local 4 that after buying and renovating their home, they are moving to avoid further problems.

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This is too true. Racism goes both ways and if this story were turned around, the husband would definately be in jail, no matter what other race it was. What are your opinions?

Eirene_DGP · #2 06-09-2002, 06:45 PM

That is true, if the offender were a black male, they probably would have arrested him a long time ago. It would be interesting to find out if this occured in a predominately black, white or integrated neighborhood. Everyone is not cool with the idea of racial mingling and you have to wonder what the girls' parents are like since racism is a learned behavior. In any case, I don't think moving is going to make the situation any better... A little background here. When my family (minority) moved into a all white, upper middle class neighborhood, some of the neighbors did pretty shady stuff and a few moved out once more minorities moved in, but we didn't move.

PM_Mama00 · #3 06-10-2002, 01:47 AM

NO no no. If the VICTIM were black, the offender would be straight off to jail. And yes, it's a predominately black neighborhood.

cash78mere · #4 06-10-2002, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Please do not think that I am racist for posting this article and agreeing with the wife of the victim. I think it's great that the wife realizes this problem.

Pm_Mama-

why would you be seen as racist? you are allowed to any opinion you want whether or not it is PC or if others agree with it! NEVER apologize to others for your beliefs!!!!! they are yours for a reason and there is no guarantee that another's is the 'right' one. by apologizing, you make it seem like you "know you are wrong but just have to say it anyway". state your mind...we know others around here do.

that being said...that absolutely is racism and those girls should have their day in court. we live in a civilized society where we prize our freedom of speech but ONLY if it doesn't infringe on the rights of others. and those girls are invading on his rights.

yes, the wife is correct, her husband would have been carted off long ago and it would be front page news.

racism is racism regardless of the color.

BearyCuteAPhi · #5 06-10-2002, 08:34 PM

INTERESTING ARTICLE. I DO NOT SEE HOW PEOPLE CAN BE SO NARROW MINDED. UGH!

RONNIE

neicy81 · #6 06-13-2002, 02:07 AM

Sorry but there is no such thing as a racist black person. Do you guys need a history lesson? It never ceases to amaze me how whites scream racism when it is clearly PREJUDICE we are talking about!!!!!!!!

Tsk, tsk, tsk!

dzrose93 · #7 06-13-2002, 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by neicy81
Sorry but there is no such thing as a racist black person. Do you guys need a history lesson? It never ceases to amaze me how whites scream racism when it is clearly PREJUDICE we are talking about!!!!!!!!

Tsk, tsk, tsk!

What the heck does history have to do with it???

ANYONE can be racist. Doesn't make any difference what color the person is. A black person can be racist against a white person, just as a white person can be racist against a black person. Both are wrong. It's a two-way street. Period.

neicy81 · #8 06-13-2002, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by dzrose93

What the heck does history have to do with it???

ANYONE can be racist. Doesn't make any difference what color the person is. A black person can be racist against a white person, just as a white person can be racist against a black person. Both are wrong. It's a two-way street. Period.

History has everything to do with it. Partly, because whites don't like to acknowledge that things happened and blacks still continue to suffer from it. A black person can not be RACIST. Racism involves POWER. Prejudice involves having a bias against someone.Know the difference.Read a book. PERIOD.

Optimist Prime · #9 06-13-2002, 01:36 PM

Racist People Suck!! Racism is a form of predjudice. And, in this situation, the black people making the threats had power. The power to intimidate. Therefore, they are racist.

neicy81 · #10 06-13-2002, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by Optimist Prime
Racist People Suck!! Racism is a form of predjudice. And, in this situation, the black people making the threats had power. The power to intimidate. Therefore, they are racist.

Um, no you are wrong.You are not looking at the big picture. Black can not stigmatize a whole group/race of people if they wanted to.Please read Race Matters ASAP.

Corbin Dallas · #11 06-13-2002, 04:03 PM

Both of these definitions are from Cambridge Dictionaries Online. According to this, a black person can be racist and/or prejudice, just as easily as a white person. Saying white people have no rhythm is racist. Saying black people are better at sports is racist. These things are also prejudice. It seems that actions are more prejudice, such as locking your doors when you see a black, hispanic, poor, biker, etc. Prejudice can be practiced against any group, black, white, greek (college or nationality), athlete, brainiac, etc. Racism can be practiced against races only. That's my take on the subject. Also, at Dictionary.com, i found the last definition of racism, which makes a lot of sense.

racism, British dated racialism
noun [U]
DISAPPROVING
1. the belief that people's qualities are influenced by their race and that the members of other races are not as good as the members of your own, which results in the other races being treated unfairly

2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

prejudice
noun
an unfair and unreasonable opinion or feeling, esp. when formed without enough thought or knowledge

dzrose93 · #12 06-13-2002, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by neicy81

History has everything to do with it. Partly, because whites don't like to acknowledge that things happened and blacks still continue to suffer from it. A black person can not be RACIST. Racism involves POWER. Prejudice involves having a bias against someone.Know the difference.Read a book. PERIOD.

The statement you made about "whites don't like to acknowledge that things happened" is wrong. If that was true, then the history books that I had in school would have been a lot shorter than they were. I think white people have done very well at taking responsibility for prior racist acts, laws, etc in this country. So please don't try and tell me that we're not acknowledging things that happened.

Also, please don't act as if black people don't have any POWER in this country. If you really believe that, then you are fooling yourself. I'm not saying that racism doesn't exist. It certainly does, and many black people are still faced with discrimination to this day. However, many white people are faced with racism from blacks also. It IS a two-way street. There is NO difference. Racism is racism and it doesn't matter who is on the recieving end. It's bad regardless.

dzrose93 · #13 06-13-2002, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by neicy81

Um, no you are wrong.You are not looking at the big picture. Black can not stigmatize a whole group/race of people if they wanted to.Please read Race Matters ASAP.

Excuse me???? That's really convoluted thinking. Like I said many times before, anyone can be racist. And it's wrong no matter who does it.

Tom Earp · #14 06-13-2002, 05:28 PM

Excuse me oh cranial rectosis one! Yes there is racisim by the African-American, Asian, and White Comunities!

I have no idea where you come by this information it sure is not from History!

Who do you think sold the Blacks to Americans but the Blacks who worked in conjunction with the Whites! It was members of African Tribes to make Money, Coin of the Realm.

Yes, I may not like N because she is Asian, or T who is Afro-American, but it amazes the hell out of me that I do get very well along with them and talk regurally!

WHAT, AM I SUPPOSE TO HATE anyone on this thread who is not White and I am? BS!

We do not for the most part know what color each and everyone of is unless it may be the Greek Organization that they represent!

DA guess what, there are the crossing of lines here!

I am sure Brother Rodney J would be upset about that as He is got a lot better tan than I do! We laff about it a lot!

If you do not beleive in what we are tyring to do here then you do not have to be a membrer of this site!

snuggles12 · #15 06-13-2002, 06:10 PM

The definition of racism will never be resolve because Blacks and whites look at differently. Blacks view racism as a institution or a set of written or unwritten rules that are unfair against a group of people. In order to have racisim, the group must have power. The apatheid and Jim Crow are both racist systems. Those who applied those rules are considered racists.

Whites view racism (as which Blacks called prejudice) as a person who believes that his racial group is superior to another race. They do not believe that power is necessary. Blacks on the other hand call this prejudice because power is necessary.

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