Kappa/Q Relationship

[The Researcher]

Were the founders of KAPsi and Q friends at Howard U?

If so did the help each other in developing their respective frats? I noticed they both have a knight's head at the top of their crest/shield.

Were they rejected by A-Phi-A?

[ManndingoNUPE]

Man you have a lot of questions, and while I know this board is for people who have questions, you seem to ask the same questions that you know we will not answer.

Part of me thinks that you are really kurious, which is kool, but the other half of me thinks that you just ask these questions that "you know we will not answer," to try to get a rise out of some of us.

Well if the "Sons of Blood & Thunder" want to answer your question then that's on them, but I will simply say that if you want to be a Kappa or an Omega, you should handle this question with a little more descretion.

As far as being rejected, please!! My founders were men of Vision and Achievement, and did not seek memebership in another fraternity.

MN

"Many are called, few are chosen, and some are just plain stupid"



[This message has been edited by ManndingoNUPE (edited October 26, 2000).]

[NUPE4LIFE]

Well said Frat. Researcher, I think that you just want to start something up in here. If you are interested in any of the BGLO's here's my advice: STOP ASKING ASENINE QUESTIONS. The questions you keep asking are really getting old. I've already told you what you should focus your research on. I guess you don't listen. Greeks in the future, don't respond to these types of questions. And researcher, get a life or a new hobby.

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Originally posted by The Researcher:
Were the founders of KAPsi and Q friends at Howard U?

If so did the help each other in developing their respective frats? I noticed they both have a knight's head at the top of their crest/shield.

Were they rejected by A-Phi-A?

I have read some of the posts that you have put up, and in my opinion, you are making it REALLY OBVIOUS on which org. you are trying to join.

If you are blessed with an invitation to partake in that particular org.'s M.I.P., you will be enlightened on the answers to all of these questions you are asking.

Just my opinion.

KittyGirl

[The Researcher]

How am I supposed to know a simple question like were the friends is supposed to be a big secret? But thanks for being your mature response. I used to think all nupes were dignified.

N4L, you seem to be the ass. 1st, I've stated before, if you don't want to answer or if the answer is esoteric or for members only JUST SAY SO. 2nd, you spend as much time on here as I, probably more, so if I need a life. Can you guess who else needs one. 3rd, You say I don't listen. That info you recommended that I seek out is fine. Just like the founders of Omega Psi Phi are interesting. 4th, the only way to find out answers is to ask questions. Since you are supposed to be an "Achiever", you should know that.

Kitty, unfortunately it's not true that I will be enlightened once joing a particular org. I have friends and family that are Ques, close friends who are Kappas and friends who are Alphas. Many members cannot answer these questions. Not because they have sworn allegiance not to, but because they don't know the answers to this question or others I have posted.

Knowledge is not power,
Applying knowledge is power!!

[ahhkbah]

I respect the quest for knowledge because when I was a GDI I thirsted for it. But to imply that an organizations founders were rejects is harsh. Angry responses are the bi-product of foolishly worded questions. Your question has some degree of validity to it but the question lacks tact.

Originally posted by The Researcher:
Were the founders of KAPsi and Q friends at Howard U?

If so did the help each other in developing their respective frats? I noticed they both have a knight's head at the top of their crest/shield.

Were they rejected by A-Phi-A?

The answer to your question is this; Their were a group of young men at Indiana U. who wanted to be Alphas. Actually they were suppose to be the tenth chapter of the Alpha org, but the snow storm hit and they grew impatient and instead of waiting on their own people (black) they looked to Phi Nu Pi. And Phi Nu Pi told them that they had to be apart of their history forever. So the young men at Indiana took the letter K representing that they were suppose to be the Kappa chapter of Alpha and of course they used the A to represent Alpha. Then the Psi comes frome the the greek letter which looks like the I and the U on top of each other because the university uses it that way. So there is no link between the Kappas and the Q's! Now they are linked together with the alphas!

just the informer!

[ManndingoNUPE]

Better judgment would dictate that I simply leave these falsehoods alone, but the part of me that works for and loves KAPsi says that I gota speak on it. I'm sorry N4L, but I can't let this one go unchecked. This is about pride.

You are totally wrong in your assumptions about my frat. They are quite laughable actually. Please when posting info on my frat, show your face (unregistered).

I won't make any assumptions about the source of your info, but let me assure you, you are incorrect.

I find it totally disrespectfull to my founders that you would have the nerve to spread falsehoods about our founding.

Of course you would never do so in person, because you know that you would be delt with accordingly.

If you are that pressed to learn about my frat, then there is a way to go about it. It is called MEMBERSHIP.

Now this is my last statment on this. I am going to leave it alone, but I just hate when people spread falsehoods about my beloved founders.


MN

"Many are called, few are chosen, and some are just plain stupid"

MandingoNupe, I love your quote!

[kovertnupe]

I usually don't say much, but to suggest that my founders were Alpha wannabees is preposterous. Do not comment on things you know nothing about. If you are sure about your resources then register so we can talk offline.

N4L and MN, keep representing. YO

[The Researcher]

Informer, that's an interesting story but, even I know better than that.


Ignorance is not bliss, it frustrates everyone in it's path.

[1906]

Actually, the informer is telling the truth to an extent and just because that was never taught to you does not make it any less true. That being said the founders of KAPSI created a marvelous fraternity that has done many great things in the community and stand as a unique entity.

[BlueReign]

Researcher, I don't think you are interested in membership in any organization. Your presence here and the offensive questions you ask indicate this. You just come on here because you wanna be starting something. If I were the Moderator you would not be here because the things you ask, in general, are offensive to all Greeks.

"Many are called, few are chosen, and some are just plain stupid" (I didn't say it - Manndingo Nupe did)

[ManndingoNUPE]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 1906:
[B]Actually, the informer is telling the truth to an extent and just because that was never taught to you does not make it any less true.

Give me a break,

I believe that you should get your facts straight. Just becuase you were taught that BS doesn't make it true. I have had discussions with members of my beloved fraternity that have over 50 years in Kappa. And we have discussed our founding quite a bit.

I had a good idea where that BS came from, but like I said, I try to give people the bennifit of the doubt. A-PHI-A is a great organization, and I give them mad respect for being the first. But when you start posting things that are simply not true, that impune the integrety of my founders, then we have beef.

One of the cardinal rules that I was taught was that you never disrespect another orgs founders. I may have beef with you, but I will always leave your founders out of it. All ouf our founders were great men and women, and should be respected by all.

If you want to believe that BS, that's cool. Everyone has the right to be stupid.

MN

"Many are called, few are chosen, and some just get need a good a$$ whipping"

[Ghostface-Killah]

I JUST CANNOT STOP LAUGHING!!!!!!!

Although I consider the topic to be a serious one, the way in which some of us approach it is more than funny. I too heard about the founders of KAPsi wanting to be Alphas. At first it was soooo interesting to me that I took the time to find out where the Kappa chapter of A Phi A is. I do not know if these great men wanted to be alphas, and don't think anyone but them have the answer. But I do know that I am SICK of hearing stories about how Kappas', Omegas' and Phi Beta Sigma's founders were supposed or wanted to be Alphas, I mean, why can it be that the founders of 3 of the last 4 NPHC frats just wanted something different? Could it be that they did not see all they were looking for in A Phi A? PLEASE!!!!!! get over it, if they wanted to be or not, this is where we are at now' YEAR 2000!!!!! I respect A Phi A to the fullest, and after sooooooo many road trips to Cornell Univ. I am convinced the there was a need for this org. By the same token, back in 1911, in KKK land, INDIANA, the need for KAPsi was more than obvious. Please notice that 8 out 0f 9 NPHC (first 8 founded before 1925) 5 of them were founded at Howard Univ. Why should all African American in college have to wait for A Phi A to get to their respective univs.? Which brings me to an interesting question; a little while ago a young lady asked why my founders had to "make" another sorority- She then added that maybe they were not good enough to be AKAs, Deltas, or Zetas. WHat do you think?
The point is, these questions have been around since God knows when, no matter how you try to school some people, not all will get the message, as my NUPE friends puts is "SOME AR JUST PLAIN STUPID!!! Just keep trying. EACH ONE TEACH ONE.

I understand we all like to connect ourselves with a glorious past but, we must be careful at whose expenses we please that ego.

no Limit Soldier.
SIGMA GAMMA RHO, Sorority Inc.