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12-15-2004, 05:15 AM
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is this possible?
I was initated in a npc sorority...sort of against my will. It was been a horrible experience. I dont want to give up on greek life because I think it could be great. A senior(not in my sorority) told me that she thought there was a loop hole for being able to rerush. I was wandering if anyone knew of a situation similar to this and the outcome?? Is it possible to do because at this if I can not rerush I am going to transfer schools because what has happened has been unbearable. Thanks for any help or advice you can give!
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12-15-2004, 05:26 AM
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You are already initiated into an NPC sorority. Regardless of whether you willingly did it or not, you cannot join another NPC sorority. No ifs, ands, or buts. Cut and dry, simple as that. You can re-rush, but I don't think any other NPC group would offer you a bid since you're already part of another sorority.
If you're interested in a local, service, or professional sorority, then you are still able to pursue membership.
I can't believe you're actually willing to transfer schools just to escape your current sorority status.
No offense, but this thread (similar to recent ones popping up like crazy) just seems fishy.
ETA: You received lots of advice in your other thread entitled "Help?", so I'd suggest you take those words into consideration instead of starting another one. KTHXBI.
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12-15-2004, 05:31 AM
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well being at a school 30,000 plus a plane ride from home when u knew no one here is unbelieveable hard and then being tricked and mistreated by a sorority that is supposed to be your "new home" "where u belong" makes everything worse.
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12-15-2004, 05:39 AM
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Originally posted by lisap34
well being at a school 30,000 plus a plane ride from home when u knew no one here is unbelieveable hard and then being tricked and mistreated by a sorority that is supposed to be your "new home" "where u belong" makes everything worse.
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I don't know your story, but people have already told you THAT YOU CANNOT INITIATE INTO ANOTHER NPC. It's unfortunate that you had a bad experience, but it's the truth...and I'm not going to blow sunshine up your ass about it. If it's sisterhood you seek, it can't be within the NPC. Hopefully there are locals or other orgs that might fit your standards.
Seriously, if you're even thinking about cheating the system -- it doesn't take a genius to know that you shouldn't be airing your friggin' situation on a message board like this. It's really not that hard to find out people's identities these days.
Flame all you want, but this thread just seems reaaaaaally fishy to me, and it's really hard to take it seriously.
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12-15-2004, 07:35 AM
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Unless you were forced at gunpoint to initiate, you had a choice.
You also had at least 6 weeks of a pledge period to figure out if it was right for you.
Again, like OTW said- NO YOU CANNOT INITIATE INTO ANOTHER NPC GROUP! There's no loopholes, there's no if ands or buts. Starting another thread isn't going to magically change the rules.
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12-15-2004, 08:06 AM
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I generally try to be non-judgmental with the folks who seem to not have a clue about Greek Life, but being "forced" to initiate strikes me as pretty odd. They have to force you to write a check for at least a couple hundred dollars, force you to show up at numerous events and meetings, force you to show up at the ceremony in the appropriate attire, etc.
We all get disillusioned at some point while a collegian, I think and question whether we made the right decision. I remember trying to desperately talk a favorite sister out of terminating her membership. Our chapter had changed a lot since she had been initiated and she no longer felt close to the newer women who were around. I tried so hard to show her that although our chapter had changed, Alpha Gamma Delta's Purpose, ritual, ideals, and focus had not changed and that she was a perfect AGD, even if our chapter wasn't perfect for her anymore. I tried hard to get her to accept other options so that she could be active as an alumna, but got nowhere. Within a year, the chapter got into a lot of trouble for their behaviors and had to be "cleaned" but is in great shape now. I will always be sad that I didn't convince this sister to stick it out because she was the kind of woman we needed around.
If something really horrible has happened, then you need to alert someone who can do something about it. There aren't any activities sanctioned by any NPC which could be classified as "horrible". You do have the option of terminating your membership, but you don't have the option of pledging another NPC, even if you transfer schools.
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12-15-2004, 08:08 AM
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any thoughts of nonjudgementalness that I had also went out the window after reading the thread she started a week and a half ago, basically asking the same question, and saying that the sorority wasn't for her. So it's gone, in 10 days, from the sorority not being for her to being forced to initiate.
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12-15-2004, 08:46 AM
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I can't fathom being 'forced' to initiate into any group?
Since this thread is already going, I'll ask:
1. WHY has it been such a horrible experience?
2. If you think greek life could be great, then why can't it be great as a member of your own sorority?
However, you can't transfer schools and join another sorority. There aren't any loopholes because you were 'forced to initiate...sorta against my will'. None, nada, not going to happen at another school anywhere. Not in the US, not in Canada, not in Europe.
Besides, if you tried to transfer and rush again, you'd be surprised to know just how quickly your prior NPC membership would be verified--especially if your first name is really Lisa and your middle or last name starts with a P. The internet is a really small place sometimes.
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12-15-2004, 10:52 AM
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The only "loophole" I can think of is if you transfer to a school that has local social sororities only, no NPCs. They might take you - but after this display, I'd kinda doubt it.
Sorry but you're a grownup now. You need to make grownup decisions and deal with them in a grownup manner if they don't work out. The only way I can think of that you'd get any sympathy here is if the sorority hazed the crap out of you, and if that was the case, you should have walked away before initiation. If you felt pressured as in your life was in danger, you should have gone to your RA or advisor or someone else.
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12-15-2004, 11:17 AM
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If you feel strongly that your sorority violated your personal rights, hazed you and/or otherwise coerced you, you have an obligation to report it to:
1) your chapter adviser
2) the campus greek adviser
3) the sorority's national headquarters
Collegiate chapters sometimes suffer a breakdown in common sense, and bad things happen. You have an obligation to speak out and help both yourself and the chapter to heal. Talk to your family and close friends. It helps to be near people you've had a strong rapport with when you're feeling down. Those people will help you to be happy again and empower you to do the right thing by holding the sorority accountable for misleading you, hazing, etc.
If that is what has happened. You have posted conflicting stories on Greek Chat.
Per your other post about transferring: If you are transferring to a university where there is not a chapter of your sorority, you are granted alumna status (in most cases).
Once you have been fully initiated into an NPC or NPHC sorority, you may not join another NPC or NPHC sorority.
However, there are many other opportunities to find your niche on campus. Get involved with intramural sports, student government, the school newspaper, community service organizations, pre-professional and honor societies, special interest clubs, and more.
Greek Chat has given you all the answers you requested. It is up to you now to determine 1) if hazing went on and if you will report it, 2) if you will be transferring and making the arrangements to settle on the new campus (where no, you may not pledge or initiate another NPC/NPHC because you are already an initiate of another and 3) getting on with your life.
I recommend if you plan to stay around this message board that you "lurk" for a while and observe. And change your screen name. You haven't made a strong impression here. We don't support hazing, but we also don't support shady stories or pity parties. We've helped you out based on your questions. Now you have to log off the Internet and actually act on something. Good luck.
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12-15-2004, 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by kddani
Unless you were forced at gunpoint to initiate, you had a choice.
You also had at least 6 weeks of a pledge period to figure out if it was right for you.
Again, like OTW said- NO YOU CANNOT INITIATE INTO ANOTHER NPC GROUP! There's no loopholes, there's no if ands or buts. Starting another thread isn't going to magically change the rules.
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I have to COSIGN on this one...
Without judging or knowing the full circumstance, I don't know how anyone could be "forced" into a sorority. I can understand extreme peer pressure, but then that unfortunately would be about the person rather than the sorority.
I hope that you are able to make the best of a bad situation and use your influence to make the sorority a more positive experience for yourself and others. If you do decide to drop out, hopefully you'll be able to make peace with the situation, as you cannot join another National sorority (but could always join a non-NPC sorority if they exist at your campus!).
chalk it up to a GREAT learning experience for you!
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12-15-2004, 01:04 PM
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This thread is definitely FISHY to me too. I also wanted to play devil's advocate and offer a suggestion. If you are being hazed and you don't know what's happening, it's definitely possible to show up and be forced into initiation without really knowing what's going on.
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12-15-2004, 01:50 PM
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If this thread is for real, the only thing I can think of is for you to transfer to a different school with a chapter of your sorority. You'll still be a sister of XYZ, but the girls will be different so you would in effect be getting a different experience.
BUT... is this really something worth transferring for?
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12-15-2004, 01:54 PM
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12-15-2004, 07:23 PM
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You guys are all being really harsh. Maybe this is a serious thread and she just has no clue about Greek Life. During my pledge period, I was never taught about how after you initiate you cannot deactivate and join elsewhere. Maybe she doesn't feel comfortable going to people in the chapter or if they have a Greek Life advisor there. (we don't have a Greek advisor, just our panhel advisor who's a kick ass Delta Zeta, but many people don't feel comfy talking to her, I think because she has a high position and they are intimidated).
Anyways, maybe she also meant that she was pressured to join, instead of forced. We don't know the whole story, and if I was being "attacked" (for lack of a lesser word) I wouldn't feel comfortable explaining the whole situation.
Lisa... it could help for us to advise you if we knew the whole story without any loose ends. If you don't feel comfortable posting it, you can private message me. I probably don't know as much as the other ladies on Greek Chat about this stuff, but I was once in your position. I stuck with it and it ended up being the best decision I ever made because things got so much better.
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