380TONS of Iraqi explosives missing- way to go US

IowaStatePhiPsi · #1 10-25-2004, 11:58 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/25/in...rtner=homepage

Damn UN...so they identify the stockpile and take care of it when they were allowed in the country...but they are too wussy to take care of it after we kicked them out? What good is an organization that doesn't take vigilante action? Look how far it got the US.

AXEAM · #2 10-25-2004, 09:37 PM

Maybe this is part of Bush's war on terrorism, make sure the terrorist get the weapons in order for the war on terrorism to continue.

AnchorAlum · #3 10-25-2004, 09:51 PM

Old news. By the way, NBC will have some new developments on this tomorrow.

But it's the Kerry-grab-at-anything daily rant, supported fully and never fully reported by the free arm of the Kerry campaign, also known as mainstream press.

phigamucsb · #4 10-25-2004, 11:55 PM

Some reports have followed stating that the stockpile of weapons were no longer present upon our soldiers initially entering the location. If this is true, sounds like the Kerry campaign used another false story(i.e. Rathergate). The Kerry campaign should really make it a point to make sure that stories they seize upon are accurate.

RACooper · #5 10-26-2004, 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by phigamucsb
Some reports have followed stating that the stockpile of weapons were no longer present upon our soldiers initially entering the location. If this is true, sounds like the Kerry campaign used another false story(i.e. Rathergate). The Kerry campaign should really make it a point to make sure that stories they seize upon are accurate.

Ah yes... it must be a "fabricated" story (and not that Democrats are the only users of this... hello WMD?) ala what you call "Rathergate" (guess he's only useful when he's sitting on stories for the administration - Abu Gharib for example).

So after 9 April 03 they went missing... now I beleive that was after the invasion... hmm who was in control of the immediate area aound this time? Guess it would have been smarter to secure the weapon sites instead of the nearby oil sites huh?

As for everyones edification:
missing are 195 metric tonnes of HMX
missing are 141 metric tonnes of RDX
missing are 5.8 metric tonnes of PETN

These explosive compounds are used to create powerful and stable explosives... such as plastique or simtex or C4. For those that remember the plane blown-up over Lockerbie, Scotland - that was accomplished by 1/2 a kg (1lb) of this class of explosive.

phigamucsb · #6 10-26-2004, 12:14 AM

I said that reports are coming in that state that the original story may not be accurate. This means that the date in April you talk about may not be an accurate date. You should stick to the main issues in your country (i.e. legalizing heroin in Toronto or Montreal, I can't remember).

RACooper · #7 10-26-2004, 12:25 AM

Well see here's the thing Rudey... oops phigamucsb (it can get confusing sometimes seperating your reactionary neo-cons), global issues are just a little but important to people in my country, as well as that thingy called the UN... so we tend to pay attention to little stories like this.

Hmmm... what's this... an update perhaps?
Tons of Explosives Missing in Iraq
By WILLIAM J. KOLE, Associated Press Writer
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._agency_iraq_7

Quote:

At the Pentagon, an official who monitors developments in Iraq said U.S.-led coalition troops had searched Al-Qaqaa in the immediate aftermath of the March 2003 invasion and confirmed that the explosives, under IAEA seal since 1991, were intact. Thereafter, the site was not secured by U.S. forces, the official said, also speaking on condition of anonymity.

AnchorAlum · #8 10-26-2004, 07:25 AM

Cooper, your Anti-US views are tolerated here. Barely. It's expected from Canadians, whose jealousy and resentment are never far beneath the surface. (Someone please pass the salt. I need a few more grains.)
Read ( if you will) further developments on this today from several sources, not just those which seem to fit your pre-ordained positions.
Spend time in the real America and find out what real America thinks. It's not contained in the New York Times. OR the AP.

moe.ron · #9 10-26-2004, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Cooper, your Anti-US views are tolerated here.

Only moderators get to choose what is tolerated. Do not question the authority of the viceroys.

Kevin · #10 10-26-2004, 09:10 AM

So this story has been disproved.

It's understandable that the news agents jumped on it, but who released the info in the first place?

Kerry, even after the truth came out kept stumping on this, completely ignoring the fact that the story contradicting the initial report was out.

One Bush aide said that Kerry "Wouldn't let the facts get in the way of his stump speach".

Well said.

moe.ron · #11 10-26-2004, 09:16 AM

I do find this entire thing morbidly funny and ironic at the same time. Consider this, Al-Qaqaa was named in Tony Blair's famous Iraq weapons dossier as a factory whose products could kill many innocent people.

Rudey · #12 10-26-2004, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RACooper
Well see here's the thing Rudey... oops phigamucsb (it can get confusing sometimes seperating your reactionary neo-cons), global issues are just a little but important to people in my country, as well as that thingy called the UN... so we tend to pay attention to little stories like this.

Hmmm... what's this... an update perhaps?
Tons of Explosives Missing in Iraq
By WILLIAM J. KOLE, Associated Press Writer
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._agency_iraq_7

I speak for myself moron. Don't ever get me confused with anyone else.

You, are a hack who I've showed wrong over and over. Often I've showed your lies. It's only appropriate for you to be upset and keep bringing me up isn't it.

-Rudey
--Keep stroking me

RACooper · #13 10-26-2004, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AnchorAlum
Cooper, your Anti-US views are tolerated here. Barely. It's expected from Canadians, whose jealousy and resentment are never far beneath the surface. (Someone please pass the salt. I need a few more grains.)
Read ( if you will) further developments on this today from several sources, not just those which seem to fit your pre-ordained positions.
Spend time in the real America and find out what real America thinks. It's not contained in the New York Times. OR the AP.

Sigh... why is it that I always seemed to be accused of being Anti-American by Bush supporters and not others?

Most of the news agencies seem to now be argueing about the time-line of the explosive's dissapearance - based on comments by NBC and Scott McClellan. However I'm still holding out for a more concrete report one way or the other... after it's McClellan's job to put spin on a issue, and I'm still waiting to see a definative report from NBC (or the 101st).

Oh as for spending time in the "real" America talking to "real" Americans... please point out where this location or people are. See cause I'm confused, I thought that I had been in the "real" America when I visited Washington, or Chicago, or Pittsburg, or Detroit, or Seattle, Indianopolis, or Omaha, or Fort Bragg, or Fort Benning, or Fort Hood, or Fort Knox - been to all in last year. Further I was under the assumption that "real" Americans lived or worked in these places...

Rudey · #14 10-26-2004, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RACooper
Sigh... why is it that I always seemed to be accused of being Anti-American by Bush supporters and not others?

Most of the news agencies seem to now be argueing about the time-line of the explosive's dissapearance - based on comments by NBC and Scott McClellan. However I'm still holding out for a more concrete report one way or the other... after it's McClellan's job to put spin on a issue, and I'm still waiting to see a definative report from NBC (or the 101st).

Oh as for spending time in the "real" America talking to "real" Americans... please point out where this location or people are. See cause I'm confused, I thought that I had been in the "real" America when I visited Washington, or Chicago, or Pittsburg, or Detroit, or Seattle, Indianopolis, or Omaha, or Fort Bragg, or Fort Benning, or Fort Hood, or Fort Knox - been to all in last year. Further I was under the assumption that "real" Americans lived or worked in these places...

How many times do people have to show you're a big fat liar?

-Rudey

hoosier · #15 10-26-2004, 10:55 AM

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