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Old 11-05-2004, 03:57 PM
Wine&SilverBlue Wine&SilverBlue is offline
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Thumbs down Please Tell Me This Is A Sick Joke

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...361521,00.html


Ummm.... thoughts?
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Old 11-05-2004, 04:05 PM
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Why would it be a sick joke? Because the guy is a Christian? Just curious, did I miss something else that was said in the article?
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Old 11-05-2004, 04:07 PM
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"Sources tell Time that the agency's choice for the advisory panel is Dr. W. David Hager, an obstetrician-gynecologist who also wrote, with his wife Linda, Stress and the Woman's Body, which puts "an emphasis on the restorative power of Jesus Christ in one's life" and recommends specific Scripture readings and prayers for such ailments as headaches and premenstrual syndrome."


Recommends scripture readings and prayer for medical conditions? WHAAAAT?!

I have no problem with him being Christian. HOWEVER, he should not be replacing medicine with "prayer" and I think he is way way too far to the right to serve on any scientific committee.
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Old 11-05-2004, 04:43 PM
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In his private practice, two sources familiar with it say, Hager refuses to prescribe contraceptives to unmarried women.
I don't know how this would affect his policy making decisions, but if he's THIS conservative, we're all screwed.
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Old 11-05-2004, 07:00 PM
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I don't know how this would affect his policy making decisions, but if he's THIS conservative, we're all screwed.

I know in an ideal world nobody would have pre-marital sex... but we need to be realistic. If he wants to ban abortions, he should at least do everything in his power to prevent unwanted pregnancies.

By keeping controceptives from unmarried women he is only making abortions more likely to happen.
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Old 11-05-2004, 08:24 PM
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Why would it be a sick joke? Because the guy is a Christian? Just curious, did I miss something else that was said in the article?
Obviously, unless you think it's okay for someone to put faith over reason when dealing with the health of other people.
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Old 11-05-2004, 09:00 PM
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Obviously, unless you think it's okay for someone to put faith over reason when dealing with the health of other people.

OH CRAP!!! I'm jewish... I guess my options are to convert and pray to Jesus or I'm going to have horrible cramps for the rest of my life!!
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Old 11-05-2004, 09:20 PM
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Prayer works
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Old 11-05-2004, 09:58 PM
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Prayer works
As an addition to science....

which is why rational people question parents who do not seek medical attention for seriously ill children instead wanting to rely solely on prayer.

And of course it is the question of praying to ...WHICH god and WHOSE god. Will one god be FDA authorized while another god won't? Serious questions IMHO.
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Old 11-05-2004, 10:05 PM
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OH CRAP!!! I'm jewish... I guess my options are to convert and pray to Jesus or I'm going to have horrible cramps for the rest of my life!!
The baby J will save you!

I'm tempted to just build up a stockade of birth control pills.
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Old 11-05-2004, 10:05 PM
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That's why so many of "us" die from diseases--particularly breast cancer--that can be easily treated.
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Old 11-05-2004, 10:59 PM
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I hear that true believers never get sick.

This is nuts, seriously. If somebody was trying to appoint a quack doctor (which is exactly what this guy IS) to this position, there is no way it'd happen. So why does a quack doctor with religious tendencies get treated any differently?

Oh, right, because we're working on this plan to the make the US a theocracy.
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Old 11-05-2004, 11:33 PM
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I had someone tell me that I had Crohn's Disease because I didn't pray enough.. she was totally serious too. Ultimately, I suppose that means that nobody prays enough, because everybody dies of something.

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Old 11-06-2004, 02:44 AM
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If he wants to ban abortions, he should at least do everything in his power to prevent unwanted pregnancies.

By keeping contraceptives from unmarried women he is only making abortions more likely to happen.
Not only unwanted pregnancies, but what about contraceptives, such as condoms to prevent the transmission of fatal diseases like AIDS?
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Old 11-06-2004, 03:08 AM
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I have yet to see prayer heal someone of cancer or AIDS, so obviously God must love watching people suffer and die.
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