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09-15-2004, 09:45 PM
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anyone who hasn't seen John Edwards speak...
i feel so sorry for you! he came to Ohio U tonight and it was amazing! That man made 1 hour seem like 10 min and you could tell how much he loved being here. If i hadn't bn a democrat before i definitely would be one now! i hope you all have a chance to see him or kerry for yourselves.
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09-15-2004, 10:22 PM
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Actions speak louder than words....haven't seen much of that out of our wonderful Senator Edwards...been too busy talking on the campaign trails.
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09-15-2004, 10:47 PM
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That's cool. Has he spoken about all the legislations he's passed?
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09-15-2004, 11:29 PM
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That's cool. Has he spoken about all the legislations he's passed?
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Uh... what legislation he's passed?
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09-16-2004, 06:14 AM
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Like Cheney had much expierence when he became Vice Pres. He did with defense but big deal the job is just more than that.
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09-16-2004, 09:02 AM
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 Secretary of Defense is slightly more involved in the executive branch and the goings on of that than being a trial lawyer/senator for a couple of years.
There's really no comparison.
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09-16-2004, 09:43 AM
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Like Cheney had much expierence when he became Vice Pres. He did with defense but big deal the job is just more than that.
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yeah, like 40 years of washington expierence(sic) . . . big f-ing deal he's the VP, it's much more important to be a trial lawyer.
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09-16-2004, 10:44 AM
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Like Cheney had much expierence when he became Vice Pres. He did with defense but big deal the job is just more than that.
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Hey I was wondering what legislation Edwards had gotten passed. I was just hoping I could have some reading material.
Do you know of any?
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09-16-2004, 11:29 AM
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here you go rudey.
http://www.senate.gov/~edwards/issues.html
this site has link to each session of congress that Senator Edwards has sponosored or cosponsored legislation.
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09-16-2004, 11:46 AM
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This says it more elegantly (as of July 2004):
Prior to being elected to the United States Senate in 1998, John Edwards never served in public office. In fact, he wasn’t even active in politics, never having worked on a political campaign or run for any elective office. Between 1991 and 1998, Edwards failed consistently to even exercise his most fundamental civic duty — he voted in merely half of the elections in which he could have during that seven-year period. His justification? According to The New York Times, "[Edwards] says, he was too busy with his legal work."
As a Senator, Edwards has no legislative accomplishments to speak of — NONE. During his short tenure in the world’s most deliberative body, Edwards has been the lead sponsor on 74 pieces of legislation, none of which has emerged from a relevant Committee and been voted on by the full Senate. In fact, in March of 2001, one of Edwards’ home-state newspapers, the Wilmington Morning Star, editorialized, "Our junior Senator is smart, charming, a smooth talker, nice looking, and a progressive Southern Democrat. … He’s built a solid record on TV talk shows, but not a solid record of legislative accomplishment…"
On national security issues, one need only look at what John Kerry himself had to say earlier this year regarding Edwards’ inexperience. In February, Kerry said of Edwards in the Los Angeles Times, "I think the American people want an experienced hand at the helm of state. This is not the time for on-the-job training in the White House on national security issues." Just one month earlier, Kerry was quoted in The New York Times as saying, "When I came back from Vietnam in 1969, I don’t know if John Edwards was out of diapers then."
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09-16-2004, 01:59 PM
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Very interesting, especially that last part.
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Originally posted by Rudey
This says it more elegantly (as of July 2004):
Prior to being elected to the United States Senate in 1998, John Edwards never served in public office. In fact, he wasn’t even active in politics, never having worked on a political campaign or run for any elective office. Between 1991 and 1998, Edwards failed consistently to even exercise his most fundamental civic duty — he voted in merely half of the elections in which he could have during that seven-year period. His justification? According to The New York Times, "[Edwards] says, he was too busy with his legal work."
As a Senator, Edwards has no legislative accomplishments to speak of — NONE. During his short tenure in the world’s most deliberative body, Edwards has been the lead sponsor on 74 pieces of legislation, none of which has emerged from a relevant Committee and been voted on by the full Senate. In fact, in March of 2001, one of Edwards’ home-state newspapers, the Wilmington Morning Star, editorialized, "Our junior Senator is smart, charming, a smooth talker, nice looking, and a progressive Southern Democrat. … He’s built a solid record on TV talk shows, but not a solid record of legislative accomplishment…"
On national security issues, one need only look at what John Kerry himself had to say earlier this year regarding Edwards’ inexperience. In February, Kerry said of Edwards in the Los Angeles Times, "I think the American people want an experienced hand at the helm of state. This is not the time for on-the-job training in the White House on national security issues." Just one month earlier, Kerry was quoted in The New York Times as saying, "When I came back from Vietnam in 1969, I don’t know if John Edwards was out of diapers then."
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09-16-2004, 02:44 PM
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Ya know, if you're going to talk about Cheney's years of experience in Washington, and Edwards or Kerry's allegedly lackluster legislative record, it opens up the question of electing a president (4 years ago) who was at that time a one term governor of Texas.
Let's face it, candidates aren't elected on their records. It's a money and popularity contest.
Sad as that is.
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09-16-2004, 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by DeltAlum
Ya know, if you're going to talk about Cheney's years of experience in Washington, and Edwards or Kerry's allegedly lackluster legislative record, it opens up the question of electing a president (4 years ago) who was at that time a one term governor of Texas.
Let's face it, candidates aren't elected on their records. It's a money and popularity contest.
Sad as that is.
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Umm I was just wondering about Edwards' experience. I think the Democrats were the ones that turned this into his lack of experience.
Either way this was a discussion on Edwards and not on others.
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09-16-2004, 03:28 PM
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Re: anyone who hasn't seen John Edwards speak...
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i feel so sorry for you! he came to Ohio U tonight and it was amazing! That man made 1 hour seem like 10 min and you could tell how much he loved being here. If i hadn't bn a democrat before i definitely would be one now! i hope you all have a chance to see him or kerry for yourselves.
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lol, he always looks like he's gonna wet himself he's so excited. i think me and edwards are on the same page.....neither of us can believe he's gone this far.  but he is kinda cute.
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09-16-2004, 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by DeltAlum
Ya know, if you're going to talk about Cheney's years of experience in Washington, and Edwards or Kerry's allegedly lackluster legislative record, it opens up the question of electing a president (4 years ago) who was at that time a one term governor of Texas.
Let's face it, candidates aren't elected on their records. It's a money and popularity contest.
Sad as that is.
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Delt, dude, for someone who is generally the voice of experience and wisdom, you've made some increasingly bizarre connections in this forum - are you really that jaded on politics? If so, brother, let us discuss it rationally, w/out that jaded influence.
And electing governors is not something novel, let's remember the long history (on both sides) of pushing governors [on one level, precisely to avoid the public-record voting and performance fiascos that Kerry and Edwards have been saddled with, etc].
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