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Old 08-17-2004, 12:34 PM
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Hazing at No. Ill. - letter to the President (& a reply)

Date: Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:57:09 PM US/Pacific
To: jpeters@niu.edu
Cc: micki1@niu.edu, lbolles@niu.edu, ggresholdt@niu.edu, jkelleher@pulitzer.net, crickert@pulitzer.net, editor@northernstar.info, CChapman@NorthernStar.info, gary.mays@journalstandard.com
Subject: Hazing at NIU

8-16-04
TO: John G. Peters, President, Northern Illinois Univ.

In today's Journal Standard, freshman football player Adam Schlamp says "the freshmen have already had some rough dealings with the upperclassmen", and I'm sure he wasn't referring to singing "I'm a Little Teapot" and the "Barney" theme.

"Schlamp said he expects the hazing to pick up as practice continues," according to the article by Graham couch.

Last year, the Lambda Chi Alpha fraternity at NIU was expelled from campus for hazing, and some individual members - the most active hazers - were expelled too.

I am interested in knowing if you are going to stop the hazing of freshmen football players, as you acted to stop hazing at the fraternity.

Please let me know.


cc: Larry Bolles, NIU Judicial Director
cc: Michelle Emmett, NIU Assoc. Vice Provost
cc: Gary Gresholdt, NIU Provost
cc: John Kelleher, Managing Editor, Daily Chronicle
cc: Chris Rickert, City Editor, Daily Chronicle
cc: Mark Bieganski, Editor, Northern Star
cc: Christina Chapman, Metro Editor, Northern Star
cc: Gary Mays, Editor, Journal Standard

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From: "Larry Bolles" <F10LDB1@wpo.cso.niu.edu>
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:51:28 AM US/Pacific
To: <jpeters@niu.edu>
Cc: <gary.mays@journalstandard.com>, <ggresholdt@niu.edu>, <lbolles@niu.edu>, <micki1@niu.edu>, <CChapman@northernstar.info>, <editor@northernstar.info>, <crickert@pulitzer.net>, <jkelleher@pulitzer.net>
Subject: Re: Hazing at NIU

Dear Dale,

I read this same article but did not arrive at the conclusion thar
"hazing" was indeed taking place. I will be speaking with the student
that you are referring to along with the coach and the associate
athletic director this morning as a part of my investigation into your
concern.

Larry D. Bolles, Ed.D
Director University Judicial Office
Northern Illinois University
Dekalb, Illinois 60115
815-753-1572
e-mail lbolles@niu.edu

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Part of the original article:

"I'm on the scout kickoff team tonight," Schlamp said. "A lot of freshmen line up against the No. 1 offense. You get a couple of reps a night at your position. You have to keep your mind right because you don't get many reps in practice."
Said Mosely: "It's all part of learning1; it's all part of being a freshman; it's all part of being a walk-on."
As for his first run-in with a 250-pound Division I linebacker, Schlamp just wanted to hurry it up.
"It's expected," Schlamp said. "It's going to happen, so I might as well not worry about it. It's a matter of having pride in yourself and getting up and going back at it."
Schlamp and the rest of the freshmen already had some rough dealings with the upperclassmen, even if it didn't involve a shoulder pad to the chin. The freshmen had to sing, "I'm a Little Teapot," on Thursday morning, followed by a rendition of the "Barney" theme song while holding hands.
Schlamp said he expects the hazing to pick up as practice continues but said it will be worthwhile when he runs onto the field Sept. 11 against Southern Illinois.

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Old 08-17-2004, 05:05 PM
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Predictable. No one wants to be held accountable, or worse admit to being inconsistant on the application of policy.

The big difference is that the Greek System doesn't directly make the University millions of $.

Maybe they should see who their biggest donors are?
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Old 08-17-2004, 06:28 PM
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Red face

Well, I guess this says it all in a nut shell!

Greeks Bad, Football and all sports Good

Seems the same thing is going on at Tx A & M and the corp of Cadets. Their not bad boys!

To put it bluntly, why do Greeks always take it in the Rear!
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:41 PM
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Received today from Larry Bolles, NIU Judicial Director


Dear ----,
Yesterday I telephoned Graham Couch and discussed the article with him.
He assured me that Adam Schlamp did not ever use the word "hazing". What
Adam did say was the freshmen were asked to sing some different songs
one of which was the NIU Fight Song.

Adam told me the same thing when I met with him. I spoke with Coach
Novak, Associate Athletic Director Robert Collins and several players on
the NIU Football Team especially freshmen and no one knew anything about
a hazing element within the Football Team.

Graham stated that he "praphrased the words of Adam and your quotation
marks were inappropriately used in your e-mail to President Peters. I
read the article and I agree with this fact. Therefore I am closing this
investigation and no charges will be levied against anyone for hazing. I
want to thank you for your concern for the safety of our students.

Have a nice day.
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:53 PM
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If he makes it to the NFL

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlot...rs/9428610.htm
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Old 08-19-2004, 12:35 PM
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We'll never win the football hazing vs. Greek hazing argument. At least not on an anti-greek school.
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