Legacy question

[JupiterTC]

My father was a member of Kappa Sigma from UNC-CH, which makes both of my brothers legacies. However, my brothers are going to Liberty where GLOs are forbidden. If my brothers were to have sons, or if I were to have sons, would they be legacies? How far does the legacy line go?

This goes for all GLOs, not just Kappa Sigma. If there is already another thread about this, feel free to link it here as well. I apologize if this is a repeat. Thanks!

[KSUViolet06]

If Kappa Sigma considers grandsons legacies, then yes. I believe all NPC/ and most NIC's consider grandchildren legacies.

[kateshort]

I believe most NIC and NPC consider legacies to be children, grandchildren, and siblings of members. I am not sure to what extent they count cousins or nieces/nephews; I think those are more of a good-to-know fact, but not a direct legacy.

I'd love to know how and if the NPHC considers legacies in membership intake, but I have a feeling that may fall under need-to-know information, since their intake procedures are *very* discreet.

I have no idea about other councils like NAFLO, MCGC, etc.

[TSteven]

Originally posted by TSteven
In general, most fraternities consider legacies as the son, grandson, or brother of a member in good standing. Many fraternities - Sigma Chi being one - include nephew as well. Also, having a cousin or a brother-in-law as a member, does not hurt.

Try this link.

Legacy Question for the Boys

[Kevin]

Each NIC group determines its own legacy policy. Ours was just changed at our last Grand Chapter. It used to be all collateral and lineal descendants -- and the ascendant had to write a letter to HQ.

Now it's lineal descendants, uncles, great uncles and brothers. (brother wasn't included before).

It can get complicated. Best to contact KS directly if you're really worried.

[aephi alum]

Originally posted by ktsnake
Each NIC group determines its own legacy policy. Ours was just changed at our last Grand Chapter. It used to be all collateral and lineal descendants -- and the ascendant had to write a letter to HQ.

What if the ascendant is deceased? Do you have a seance?

My guess is that most likely, your and your brothers' sons would be considered legacies. Many, but not all, GLOs consider the grandparent/grandchild relationship as a legacy relationship. Even if they don't, they may give grandchildren some additional consideration. Best way to find out - contact Kappa Sigma directly.

[aurora_borealis]

Originally posted by aephi alum
What if the ascendant is deceased? Do you have a seance?

My relative is deceased. A nice alum that wrote a letter included that fact. The Head Office for this group did not know the member relative was deceased until I called to ask if they had her badge in the vault.

[JupiterTC]

Wow, you guys are extremely helpful . I certainly appreciate everyone's imput! I was just curious as to whether or not my sons, if I were to have any, would be legacies. I will contact KS and see what they say.

Thanks a bunch! This is a wonderful forum, and I am glad to come across it. You guys rock

[TSteven]

Originally posted by JupiterTC
Wow, you guys are extremely helpful . I certainly appreciate everyone's imput! I was just curious as to whether or not my sons, if I were to have any, would be legacies. I will contact KS and see what they say.

Thanks a bunch! This is a wonderful forum, and I am glad to come across it. You guys rock

If Kappa Sigma considers grandfathers as legacies then yes any sons of yours would be Kappa Sigma legacies.

When a fraternity considers grandfathers as legacies, then the legacy may be passed down via his daughters or sons - regardless if they are a member.

Hope this helps.

ETA: This should be the same for sororities that consider grandmothers as legacies. The legacy may be passed down via her sons or daughters to her granddaughters.

[Kevin]

Originally posted by aephi alum
What if the ascendant is deceased? Do you have a seance?

Without the letter as I understand it, you won't be given official legacy status.

Some chapter are also able to be given waivers on granting legacy status. For example our Ole Miss chapter has pledge classes of 80+. They usually were about half or more legacies. I understand they're going to try and curtail that.

[TSteven]

Originally posted by ktsnake
For example our Ole Miss chapter has pledge classes of 80+. They usually were about half or more legacies. I understand they're going to try and curtail that.

If this is not a "need to know" situation, may I ask why they are going to curtail taking legacies?

Not to presume anything here, but I'm guessing that the feeling is the chapter may feel they *have to* take legacies when they feel these men are perhaps not a good fit?

And is this a chapter decision or an HQ decision?

[HotDamnImAPhiMu]

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