Alright, so we have a problem...

dzjusty · #1 03-20-2001, 07:36 PM

I go to a Catholic Jesuit school that is now in the process of trying to get rid of the Greek system. We have been under review all quarter and tomorrow night we find out if the Greeks will be able to remain as school organizations....its really stressful for us and we ahve already had to postpone rush!!
Wish us luck tomorrow!! I will let you guys know how it goes.
It does help, however, to have our national president on our side and supportive of us

HOpefully it'll turn out well!!
DZLOve, Justy

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DZ sisters never end!

dzrose93 · #2 03-21-2001, 11:25 AM

I will be praying for you and your chapter, hon! Good luck, and remember that all of your sisters are with you on this! Let me know if there is anything I can do! And please post the outcome of the meeting tomorrow!

DZ Love and Mine,
Carrie

#3 03-22-2001, 12:08 AM

dzjusty,

though i am not a dz, i wish you the best of luck, and i hope you and your greek family will prevail!

dzjusty · #4 03-22-2001, 02:31 PM

Bad news. Father Locatelli has demanded that we close all the greek chapters by June 2003

For those of us who have dedicated all of our college life to Delta Zeta- this is really devastating and really unfair.
I, for one, am really angry...
Anyways....so thats the result of the meeting. When will people stop blaming University problems on Greeks?? That is a good question.

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dzrose93 · #5 03-22-2001, 03:21 PM

You have every right to be upset! How did the issue first come up? What did the university cite as their reasons for closing down the Greek system? And what information was offered in opposition of the closing? (Sorry for so many questions - I just can't believe that the university would make this drastic change!) Is there anything that you can do to appeal the ruling? I would definitely fight as hard as possible, right up until the cut-off date!

In the flame,
Carrie

33girl · #6 03-22-2001, 07:51 PM

Do you get any federal money at all? Does the school accept federal student loans?

If so, the school is violating your rights and breaking the law. Get some rich alums to drag their butts into court.

The law I'm referring to is on http://www.greekpages.com

dzjusty · #7 03-22-2001, 08:03 PM

OK, here is the story...
Our school is run by Jesuits-so ultimately they have the last say...
Our president has a reputation for hating the Greek system.
So, every how ever many years each org. on campus goes through a review process. This year was IGC's year, but this time they went crazy on us. Thhey cancelled rush and had a committee evaluate us for almost 2 full quarters.
The committee was made up of profs and some students (like the student body pres. and senate chair).
The review was presented with information from all sides, including IGC's and came to the conclusion that it was in the school's best interest to keep greeks on campus, but to make a few changes in the way we run things...
Our president chose to pretty much ignore the review committee's suggestions and make the decision that he was planning to make from the beginning- to get rid of us.
It really really sucks and makes me lose all respect for him and any consideration that he may claim he has for the students. He is just really biased, and there is no evidence that tells us that he knows anything about the greek system here. Its sad. really sad. But, unfortunately people still chose to see us as nothing but organized drinking clubs who exclude people- and for anyone who is greek- we know that is so not true. We tried to show him what we are really about and he would not listen. As of what will happen as a result- we are not sure about anything right now. We are still in shock and not really ready to deal with it bc its finals week and everyone has been stressing about school for the past few days and all of a sudden this came up...
I really don't know what to say. I am just sad and disappointed. But no matter what happens he can not take away our sisterhood, our friendship and our membership. No one will take my badge away from me. Not him not anyone.
Thanks for the concern, I will keep you updated

In the Flame, Justy

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DZ sisters never end!

Billy Optimist · #8 03-23-2001, 10:47 PM

Could you still be Delta Zeta if you go sub-rosa?

dzrose93 · #9 03-26-2001, 10:27 AM

Hey Billy,

I'm not familar with the term "sub-rosa". Do you mean going underground?

Thanks,
Carrie

mgdzkm433 · #10 03-26-2001, 05:45 PM

You'll always be a Delta Zeta. It doesn't matter what the college decides, they can never take your membership away. If you're forced to go alumni by the school--one solution might be for your chapter to form an alumni organization. You won't be able to have it on campus and you won't have things such as rush, but it's a 'legal' way of 'operating' a chapter of Delta Zeta. The college also has no say in this--so you won't need to worry about them interfering in your business.

mgdzkm433 · #11 03-26-2001, 05:47 PM

At least, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do this--of course Nationals will have to clear it.

dzrose93 · #12 03-27-2001, 11:05 AM

Hi Justy,

I wanted to let you know that the news about Santa Clara phasing out Greek organizations has been posted on the Delta Zeta Surfing Sisters board, a site for DZ alumnae to meet and chat with each other. We have hundreds of DZ's on this particular board, and we are all thinking about you right now! What is your chapter's address at school? Please e-mail it to me at dzrose93@yahoo.com THANKS!

In the Flame,
Carrie

dzjen27 · #13 03-29-2001, 02:00 PM

Something similar happened at my university, but it was so long ago that I can't remember what year. At the University of Tampa, we had a president come in and get rid of the football team and the Greek system because he though our school was too much a party school. The good news is that Greeks were re-instated in the 1980s, so they can come back. This probably doesn't make you feel much better right now, but I hope it helps somewhat :-)

dzrose93 · #14 03-29-2001, 02:33 PM

Hi Jen,

Thanks for the positive info! Just goes to prove that there's always a chance for us Greeks to make a comeback, regardless of the odds against us!

dzjusty · #15 03-30-2001, 04:33 PM

dzjen27-
How ironic- our president recently got rid of our football team too...
He thinks this is too much of a party school and many of my friends, greek and non-greek, think that he wants to turn Santa Clara into another Stanford (which is also in our area)-and the ironic thing about that is that Stanford has a huge greek system. ugh.
Anyways thanks for the positivity...

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