Having Lil Bros & Sis's in different Organizations

[collme83]

Hey all...i wanted to know how many of you at your schools intertwine having lil bros & sis's from differnt fraternities and sororities other than your own. if i don't make sense i mean for example ...myself being a pi phi and having a Phi delta Theta big brother and a lil brother in Kappa Sig, or a lil DG sis as well as one in Pi Phi. I know schools in Idaho and Washington do this...but at the University of Utah we only have lil sis's with in our own sorority. And how do you get that going on campus? b.c. i think it's a great way to meet more people other than your usual hangouts.

pi phi love,
...colleen*

[SurfinDBeach]

The Big Sis/Little Sis/Big Bro/Little Bro system is HUGE on my campus...

Most of us take it very seriously...

I have my own big bro - as well as my big SIS who is a DELTA GAMMA...

I also have an unofficial little sis' from Alpha Phi - but she won't be official until she is initiated...

All "littles" are initiated...

In our chapter, we have initiations for all bigs/littles...

Usually, you have to "EARN" it...

Personally, I take my big brother/big sister relationships very seriously, as do they...

I literally love my big sister, and we treat each other just like family... Being protective and close and all...
I love her whole house as well! The guys in my house know me as the male Delta Gamma! LOL! The DG's here are hot, classy, and nice...

I even take my "Twin" relationship seriously...
If you don't know, a twin is another "little" of your "big"... If you can follow that... In my case, my twin is the little sis of my big sis... therefore we are twins...

I literally love my twin from Delta Gamma... We treat each other like brother and sister, and are very close as well...

Having bigs, littles, and twins from sororities (in the case of fraternity guys) does a lot... You are sort of part of that house, are known as a little bro of that house, and know a whole lot of the sisters in that house...

It's a special system - and it thrives very strong on our campus... A lot of times people refer to themselves as "so and so's little bro/little sis."


It would only be appropriate to end this post with:
"HOT DAMN DELTA GAM!!!"

GO BEACH!!!

[ISUKappa]

Auxillary programs such as big or lil brothers or sisters are highly discouraged within the NPC. Most of them were done away with in the 90s. I know that many campuses continue to have them, most sub rosa, but they are frowned upon.

[AOII_LB93]

SurfinDBeach,

It's funny that you mention that, because when I was a collegiate at LB from 93-98 (5 year plan!- they lie about 4, but I digress) it wasn't a big deal at all. No one did that stuff, or if they did it was small time.

Quite honestly I think it is a bad idea. I've seen what it's done...and some women who get involved in "programs" like that tend to give more time to the fraternity than they do to their own org. I wish someone would come in and clean house with that at Long Beach. Most (inter)national organizations, at least from the women's side discourage that behavior. I wish they did it more.

This is AOIIs policy on it. http://www.alphaomicronpi.org/conten...biglittle.html

[CASIGKAP]

Originally posted by AOII_LB93
[B]SurfinDBeach,

Quite honestly I think it is a bad idea. I've seen what it's done...and some women who get involved in "programs" like that tend to give more time to the fraternity than they do to their own org. I wish someone would come in and clean house with that at Long Beach. Most (inter)national organizations, at least from the women's side discourage that behavior. I wish they did it more.

I know that ladies of my house do participate in that but I don't personally care for it. I think it's great that we are able to have such great relationships with the fraternities on campus but I dislike the fact that on the days when we are supposed to wear letters to school, I see ladies from my house & others wearing the fraternities letters & not their own. It's great to be proud but I feel that you should wear YOUR own GLO's letters & not someone elses.

Also, I really do think that sororities could spend more time forming better relationships with one another rather than cultivating time with the frats. I recently met & befriended two ladies on campus. One a Gamma Phi Beta & the other a Tri-Delta. They were incredible ladies & I am looking forward to getting to know them & their houses better. It's a small step but every little bit helps right?

P.S. AOII_93, did you receive my PM I sent you a while back?

[Kevin]

We have a similar big sis program (Sigma Nu does not have little sis's). We'll have big sis's in various sororities. They buy us stuff, so it's an okay deal.

[CASIGKAP]

Originally posted by ktsnake
We have a similar big sis program (Sigma Nu does not have little sis's). We'll have big sis's in various sororities. They buy us stuff, so it's an okay deal.

O.K. Don't take this the wrong way but that sounded wrong on all levels. I don't think you should have big bro/lil sis programs if the only reason you have them is to get presents. I don't think that's the reason they were established. If I took out of context what you said, I do apologize for that but it sounds so wrong to hear that b/c you get stuff from them, it's o.k.

Also, I do believe that Sigma Kappa does not recognize these types of programs. I looked it up & there is a national policy that states "does not recognize auxiliary groups to Sigma Kappa for men, commonly called big/little brothers or fraternity dads, or womens auxiliary groups for men's fraternities commonly called little sisers." It goes on to say more but you get the picture. Read the handbook to get the rest of it.

[Kevin]

Originally posted by CASIGKAP
O.K. Don't take this the wrong way but that sounded wrong on all levels. I don't think you should have big bro/lil sis programs if the only reason you have them is to get presents. I don't think that's the reason they were established. If I took out of context what you said, I do apologize for that but it sounds so wrong to hear that b/c you get stuff from them, it's o.k.

Also, I do believe that Sigma Kappa does not recognize these types of programs. I looked it up & there is a national policy that states "does not recognize auxiliary groups to Sigma Kappa for men, commonly called big/little brothers or fraternity dads, or womens auxiliary groups for men's fraternities commonly called little sisers." It goes on to say more but you get the picture. Read the handbook to get the rest of it.

No.. not just for the presents. They do stuff as well. It's been a good program. I never had a "big" or anything.

[CASIGKAP]

Oh. Sorry if I came off as condescending. I just get tired of seeing girls wearing the letters of the frats instead of their own. Kinda sad.

[sairose]

SAI is not allowed to have big/lil bros.

[Kevin]

Originally posted by CASIGKAP
Oh. Sorry if I came off as condescending. I just get tired of seeing girls wearing the letters of the frats instead of their own. Kinda sad.

We don't have littles. Nah it's cool though. What you end up with more than anything are guys wearing a sorority's t-shirts and having gifts that say XYZ loves ΣN.

[SurfinDBeach]

Well, most orgs don't officially recognize or encourage these types of programs...

But the reality is, it happens...

For many who are involved, it's very rewarding...

Of course, there are those of you who don't care for it... And that's okay... That's your right...

But it does happen...

It's ironic that there's 2 LBSU greeks here that frown upon it...

There are more than 1 AOPI big sis's in TKE here... One of them you might know...
But those are usually the few guys who talk to AOPi's...

I don't even think we have any Sigma Kappas in our big/little programs... We don't really hang out with Sigma Kappas...

And I don't mean to sound condescending either, but I can almost guarantee that you would appreciate it more if you had a big bro from a fraternity that you really liked hanging out with...

If you don't have one, then of course, it gets annoying...

I do know that the other "big" sororities on our campus participate very much in these programs... Including my Big Sis's... Delta Gamm of course...

I just got my little bro (who was a pledge this last spring) a GPhiB big sis, and they take it VERY SERIOUSLY...

But yeah, i'm totally aware that on a national level, it's not looked highly upon... But it does happen, and people do benefit from it...


BUT NO, I DO NOT WEAR Delta Gamma LETTERS! That would make me look gay... The relationship and what we share is enough for me!

GO BEACH!!!

[SigkapAlumWSU]

At my school, big/lil sis/bro's who are in other house are just that. Someone who you look up to, or someone who looks out for you. We don't have "lil sis groups" or anything like that. I have lil B's in 3 different houses because I look out for these guys like my own little brothers, and we are close as well. I know many people who do this, more to show a closeness and friendship than pick an association with a paticular house. Most people I know who have bigs and lils also have them from a range of houses. I also happen to know that for one of my lil b's, I am not his only big sis. This just means he happens to be close to people in two houses. Hope this isn't too confusing.

This does not in any way allow you to wear their letters, as I hope you'd have a respect for their house rather than just wanting a sweatshirt.

The "programs" used to be huge on my campus, I will say that, with fraternity composites containing a whole row of lil sis's. Now, it has passed onto a much more informal thing.

[Erik P Conard]

'spose SAE and TKE had the most little sister groups in the 60s.
it was a lose-lose situation, divisive as the devil, and did little to
enhance the system.
Then you had independents as little sisters, and so on.
The usage of "frat" is or at least was, usually frowned upon and
used by ignorant reporters and their ilk.
But I am of an older generation. The come-and-go little sister
outfits will come and go and leave bad feelings in the long haul.

[AGDee]

The primary reason that these arrangements are discouraged by the inter/national groups is because it can jeopardize our single sex organizational status. If we don't follow careful guidelines, we'll all be intermixed organizations. As ridiculous as it seems, even the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts have to face this challenge.

Also, when GLOs started really cracking down on hazing, we saw an insurgence of "cross-hazing", where they simply had another GLO haze their pledges for them. This was often done under the auspices of "little sis/bro-big sis/bro" type arrangements.

Dee