White Chicks

Rudey · #1 07-01-2004, 11:22 AM

I don't understand why the thread on White Chicks was deleted. I will keep reposting this in the future if it is deleted. It is my opinion that someone like Breathesgelatin should not be a moderator if she keeps abusing her power. Perhaps she would like to explain herself privately to me via a PM so she doesn't get embarassed further.

Now how do you all feel about this movie?

This is how certain members of the black community feel:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...threadid=52818

How do you feel when certain members of the black community make these remarks in response to the movie?

This thread is about White Chicks and the responses it has received. White Chicks is a movie falling under the entertainment category.

-Rudey
--Rudey always wins. Always.

Honeykiss1974 · #2 07-01-2004, 11:32 AM

The same way I feel about people who take their issue with ONE black person and turn it into a silly generalization of "the black community" ....

breathesgelatin · #3 07-01-2004, 11:38 AM

Sure, I'll send you a PM, Rudey.

I'll let this stand for now but if anyone gets out of hand I will have to take action.

My opinion on White Chicks:

I don't like this type of movie. I don't think it's complimentary or forward-looking for those of any race or religion. It's demeaning on so many levels. At the same time, I do not think it's any kind of racist conspiracy. I think that ideally there would not be a market for this movie, but since there is, we can expect movies like this to be made. It's not like there is some cultural dictator sitting around saying "We shall make this type of movie to indoctrinate people in the theories of X, Y, and Z." People think these movies will do well on the market, so they make them. I will not see this movie and I will not see any movie similar to it, and that's my CHOICE. I'm not forced to accept or view this crass entertainment, so therefore, it's some kind of far-reaching conspiracy.

Rudey · #4 07-01-2004, 11:46 AM

Nothing violated any rule. There was no fighting. You did remove the thread though. I expect an apology because people already see that you've made a mistake. Thanks

Quote:

Originally posted by breathesgelatin
Sure, I'll send you a PM, Rudey.

I'll let this stand for now but if anyone gets out of hand I will have to take action.

My opinion on White Chicks:

I don't like this type of movie. I don't think it's complimentary or forward-looking for those of any race or religion. It's demeaning on so many levels. At the same time, I do not think it's any kind of racist conspiracy. I think that ideally there would not be a market for this movie, but since there is, we can expect movies like this to be made. It's not like there is some cultural dictator sitting around saying "We shall make this type of movie to indoctrinate people in the theories of X, Y, and Z." People think these movies will do well on the market, so they make them. I will not see this movie and I will not see any movie similar to it, and that's my CHOICE. I'm not forced to accept or view this crass entertainment, so therefore, it's some kind of far-reaching conspiracy.

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Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
The same way I feel about people who take their issue with ONE black person and turn it into a silly generalization of "the black community" ....

Nobody said it was a whole community Honeykiss; I did use the word "certain". Let's all be civil here. What I did hope to show however was that this dirt was out there and nobody was saying anything about it - hence the people that did post that said certain person was wrong found out about the opinion from this Entertainment forum and weren't regulars to the Alpha Phi Alpha forum.

-Rudey

breathesgelatin · #5 07-01-2004, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Nothing violated any rule. There was no fighting. You did remove the thread though. I expect an apology because people already see that you've made a mistake. Thanks

I sent you a PM regarding all this, but I'll address this one more time in the thread and then back to business.

Basically, I can do whatever I want in my forum but I try to stay reasonable. I think I made the right call, but I do see your side as well. You are correct in that there wasn't really "fighting" going on yet. Anyway I wrote more about this in the PM and I hope that you'll read that and we can move on.

Rudey · #6 07-01-2004, 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by breathesgelatin
I sent you a PM regarding all this, but I'll address this one more time in the thread and then back to business.

Basically, I can do whatever I want in my forum but I try to stay reasonable. I think I made the right call, but I do see your side as well. You are correct in that there wasn't really "fighting" going on yet. Anyway I wrote more about this in the PM and I hope that you'll read that and we can move on.

We can move on. In the future if I don't violate any rules, you erase my post because you can, then I will repost because I can. Nobody will have violated any rules; nobody will be in trouble, but a lot of time will be wasted. We did move on

-Rudey

Peaches-n-Cream · #7 07-01-2004, 12:27 PM

Personally, I don't understand why the entire thread was deleted when anti-Semitic posts are left untouched. I think that yesterday's thread about these posts should have been left since the posts that inspired it remain. I know that these are different forums with different moderators. I just don't like seeing valid threads deleted and bigoted posts remain.

Rudey · #8 07-01-2004, 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
Personally, I don't understand why the entire thread was deleted when anti-Semitic posts are left untouched. I think that yesterday's thread about these posts should have been left since the posts that inspired it remain. I know that these are different forums with different moderators. I just don't like seeing valid threads deleted and bigoted posts remain.

No more talks about this thread being deleted. I believe I've made myself clear.

Should anyone feel upset about a comment in another forum, I do welcome you to post here and in that forum as well.

-Rudey
--I've made a celebrity of this guy.

Kevin · #9 07-01-2004, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
Personally, I don't understand why the entire thread was deleted when anti-Semitic posts are left untouched. I think that yesterday's thread about these posts should have been left since the posts that inspired it remain. I know that these are different forums with different moderators. I just don't like seeing valid threads deleted and bigoted posts remain.

While not all mods are consistant, I think that different rules are appropriate for differnet forums. Since this is an "Entertainment" forum, I don't see how discussions of race and bigotry really have much place here. From all I have seen, mods do their best to keep their own forums up as well as possible.

Rudey · #10 07-01-2004, 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
While not all mods are consistant, I think that different rules are appropriate for differnet forums. Since this is an "Entertainment" forum, I don't see how discussions of race and bigotry really have much place here. From all I have seen, mods do their best to keep their own forums up as well as possible.

OK. Let's talk about what kind of lenses were used in the film.

-Rudey
--Do you really want to go through this Kevin or is it just not worth it for you? I would hope it's the latter.

Kevin · #11 07-01-2004, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
OK. Let's talk about what kind of lenses were used in the film.

-Rudey
--Do you really want to go through this Kevin or is it just not worth it for you? I would hope it's the latter.

I'd prefer a deep discussion on lenses.

AKA_Monet · #12 07-01-2004, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Now how do you all feel about this movie?

How do you feel when certain members of the black community make these remarks in response to the movie?

This thread is about White Chicks and the responses it has received. White Chicks is a movie falling under the entertainment category.

-Rudey
--Rudey always wins. Always.

Rudey--Why are you worried about black men dressing up (cross dressing) as caucasian women?

That is what I am trying to figure out...

It's like I said in some other forum about this... All I hear you saying is sex, black male pre-op wannabe white woman transsexuals and some movie that is completely irrelevant to anything, or anyone with a thought process...

Besides, I am still waiting for the commentary by the little robots on Mystery Science Theater 3000 on this movie...

Or maybe Beavis and Butthead have better descriptions...

Better yet,

Jay and Silent Bob's serious prosyletizing and analysis of the SFX "greatness" of this movie making in the city of Hollywood, California...

AKA_Monet · #13 07-01-2004, 08:30 PM

How the HAYLE did this movie get "greenlighted"???

It just goes to show you what kind of crack some producer was smoking when he approved this screenplay with these actors to play these parts...

And when was this movie made? 2000, 2001--'cuz I know it was made before the Iraq war...

It is like Samuel L. Jackson said in the "Black Hollywood" documentary, the "greenlighters"--movie studio execs--are only interested in how much money a movie can generate based on how much censorship or ratings they can get away with or extend or bend the envelop... Like "how many 'tits' will be in this movie"? 1 "tit", 2 "tits", how many? We get $100 per 'tit' dependent on age, race and plumpness of the 'tit'--That is ALL the studio execs are thinking...

So a dumbassed movie that I will wind up only seeing if I am extremely drunk, very high on marijuana or find myself comatosed in some old age hospital unable to change the channel, that is definitely NOT worth my breath to begin explaining the logic of why the Wayans brothers would downsize their Hollywood CV's like that--unless they were able to suck some extremely good dcik to do it...

And I skeerioussly doubt they did any chick to get this movie made...

Rudey · #14 07-01-2004, 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by AKA_Monet
Rudey--Why are you worried about black men dressing up (cross dressing) as caucasian women?

That is what I am trying to figure out...

It's like I said in some other forum about this... All I hear you saying is sex, black male pre-op wannabe white woman transsexuals and some movie that is completely irrelevant to anything, or anyone with a thought process...

Besides, I am still waiting for the commentary by the little robots on Mystery Science Theater 3000 on this movie...

Or maybe Beavis and Butthead have better descriptions...

Better yet,

Jay and Silent Bob's serious prosyletizing and analysis of the SFX "greatness" of this movie making in the city of Hollywood, California...

Hon, perhaps you have me figured out all wrong. I don't care if anyone dresses up as anyone as long as the intent isn't to offend someone. I've yet to actually see someone complain about this movie and I am all about cheap laughs. What I do take offense to is that phashriner guy's comments.

-Rudey

Rudey · #15 07-02-2004, 12:43 PM

I guess that thread was locked because shriner defaced women. The stuff about Jews, white women, and Asians was OK.

Champ glad you liked the movie. Here are other reviews of the movie: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/WhiteChicks-1133505/

It's interesting though how certain emotions of hate and ignorance were aroused within certain members of the black race when this movie came out. I really do hope most people see it for humor rather than hate.

-Rudey