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04-06-2004, 02:37 PM
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Who's Fault is it we're fat??
I've seen discussion about this sort of scattered around the boards, but what intrigues me is the POLITICS of the situation...
I feel like everytime i turn around, somebody's trying to ban something...
So what do you guys think?? Am I the only one that thinks all the fuss is just BS??
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04-06-2004, 02:41 PM
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In simple terms your topic can be looked at in relation to the supersize McDonald's issue and we can say 'Well they don't HAVE to eat it - it's not as if the food is thrust by someone else into their mouth orifice and they're raped by fries'.
In wider terms though, there probably are socio-political issues. For example, lower income families often eat foods particularly processed foods which are cheaper. Those cheaper foods are poorer quality in that they have higher fat contents. So it isn't always a clear choice for people in terms of eat it or skip it since they may not have vast food options to choose from.
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04-06-2004, 02:42 PM
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Why am I fat?
I saw the food, I saw I had money, I bought it. I ate it. It was ALL me, no TV, no movie, no song influenced it. Now it's on me to lose it. Plain and simple.
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04-06-2004, 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by decadence
For example, lower income families often eat foods particularly processed foods which are cheaper. Those cheaper foods are poorer quality in that they have higher fat contents. So it isn't always a clear choice for people in terms of eat it or skip it since they may not have vast food options to choose from.
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Low income people get food stamps. They can buy veggies, salads and chicken etc if they want to. They dont want to. So I'm sorry but I think that's an excuse. Its always easier for all of us to slide by a fast food place and pick up something...
Bottom Line its our choice. Its obviously our choice to be fat.
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04-06-2004, 03:10 PM
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I've been overweight ever since I was a child. I was a 9lbs baby when I was born-and I'm not the only overweight person in my family. Both of my parents are overweight, as well as my sister, my living grandmother (as well as my deceased grandmother), both of my dad's brothers & his sister, and my mom's sister & brother. I never knew either of my grandfathers but I have seen pictures-and yes, they were both overweight. My immediate family (Mom, Dad, & sister) have alway advocated healthy meals and snack options to choose from. Since diabetes, cancer, & heart disease run in my family we have always taken good care of what we eat as well as we have a membership at the YMCA that we regularly attend (no longer together, mostly on our own now that my sister & I have grown up). Both my mother & I have seen numerous doctors & dieticians but nothing has really been successful. I am still considered medically obese & my only option to lose the weight is surgery. My dietician has given me tips to help stay the weight I am but like all of the other dieticians that I've seen (& that have seen my long medical history) will admit, I've got no hope.
And I definitely don't agree that being fat is always the person's fault. It isn't a fair statement to make when there are always exceptions.
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04-06-2004, 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by crzychx
And I definitely don't agree that being fat is always the person's fault. It isn't a fair statement to make when there are always exceptions.
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You are correct..there are always exceptions...and obviously this particular case wouldn't be what people are talking about. I think people are talking about those that choose to eat Mcdonalds, BK, and other poor dietary choices....and then either try to sue, complain or get disability because they're now obese...
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04-06-2004, 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
Why am I fat?
I saw the food, I saw I had money, I bought it. I ate it. It was ALL me, no TV, no movie, no song influenced it. Now it's on me to lose it. Plain and simple.
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Thumbs up. I knew exactly what ice cream (and cookies and cake and candy and everything that's not meat!) was going to do to me.
I don't think it's socioeconomic. There are fat people in every stratification of people you can choose. People are fat because food tastes good and they're lazy.
Sure, there's the small minority of fat people who have a thyroid problem or some other health issue that is causing their fat, but for the majority of people - it's the food.
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04-06-2004, 03:36 PM
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I was a little overweight for a while... It stemmed from being out of college, freshly married, and having extra money. I can agree with what DeltaSigStan said. I could afford to eat all this good food, on the surface it's good for you (steak, vegetables, seafood...dessert - well maybe not everything) and then you start looking at the butter, cheese, heavy cream, sugar content and you don't have to wonder any more where the fat started piling on.
There are exceptions to the weight problem (medical conditions...), but on the whole I believe that it is a personal problem. Most people don't have to have a weight problem if they eat right and have a little will power (easier said than done I know)
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04-06-2004, 06:47 PM
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Old Dr. said if it tastes good, spit it out!
Changed Dr.
If I like it, F Them, I like what I eat, I cook it and eat what the Hell I want!
Oh god super size is making kids fat! Parents are making Kids Fat, Moms dont cook at Home and they go out! Never say NO to Your Kids, you will or can get busted for child abuse whether you did it or not!
Damn, getting hungry!
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04-06-2004, 09:55 PM
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If its fat its your fault. Simple.
There are very few medical conditions that will make you permanently fat. And . . many of them are caused by being fat.
I got fat after going through the windshield of my car, but i didn't have to let myself get like that . . . I made conscious decisions to eat and drink certain things. *shrug* We are rarely helpless.
I was looking through a medical text from the 50's where they were showing how they controlled the wight of several people with metabolic disorders.
I will say that it can be harder for some people to lose the fat. Especially if you are really far away from your goal weight and don't really know much about dieting and training.
Most dieting and training is counter-intuitive, which means that what you think is right . . . is usually wrong.
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04-06-2004, 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
Low income people get food stamps. They can buy veggies, salads and chicken etc if they want to. They dont want to.
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These things are much more expensive than the "bad for you" foods that will go much further.
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04-06-2004, 10:23 PM
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A Few Points
Low Income People Don't Get Food Stamps, To Qualify You Have To Be Basically Homeless..That's Not Called Low Income, It's Called POOR!
People who say it's anybody's fault have never been overweight and those negative attitudes contribute to the problem, but eh,
"It Ain't My Fault"
Not everyone who is overweight is that way because they can't put the food down, ever thought to imagine that different foods make people overweight? Whereas you could eat a turkey sandwich and be fine, my cousin who gains wait from any carb that touches her mouth can't.
Let us not generalize, because just because things are simple for you, or even if you have struggled with your weight and succeeded, as have I. One must understand that everyone's situation isn't the same.
Saying "It's ALL Your Fault You're Fat" is like saying "It's All Your Fault You're Poor"
Equally Ridiculous Statements
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04-06-2004, 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by deuika
People who say it's anybody's fault have never been overweight
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I was overweight, and it was my fault. I lost 40 pounds in 6 months because I decided to do something about it, and I'm still losing weight.
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04-06-2004, 10:27 PM
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Well I respectfully disagree. Although fault might be a loaded word. Would you agree thats its your responsibility that you are fat? That you have ownership of your situation regardless of how it happened?
That might simplify it a bit. No matter whose fault you believe it is, it ends up being your responsibility.
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Originally posted by deuika
A Few Points
Low Income People Don't Get Food Stamps, To Qualify You Have To Be Basically Homeless..That's Not Called Low Income, It's Called POOR!
People who say it's anybody's fault have never been overweight and those negative attitudes contribute to the problem, but eh,
"It Ain't My Fault"
Not everyone who is overweight is that way because they can't put the food down, ever thought to imagine that different foods make people overweight? Whereas you could eat a turkey sandwich and be fine, my cousin who gains wait from any carb that touches her mouth can't.
Let us not generalize, because just because things are simple for you, or even if you have struggled with your weight and succeeded, as have I. One must understand that everyone's situation isn't the same.
Saying "It's ALL Your Fault You're Fat" is like saying "It's All Your Fault You're Poor"
Equally Ridiculous Statements
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04-06-2004, 10:35 PM
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I never said there was NO responsibility to be placed on the overweight person. But no one knows everyone's situation, generalizations are just plain wrong.
PhiPsiRuss...Congrats on the weight lost
My point is simply "If you don't know, you don't know."
Which kindly means unless you have dealings with every overweight person in the country, you really don't know.
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