NIC rules in regards to resigning from one fraternity to join another one

[UT SAE21]

what are peoples thoughts on this. there was a kid in my class who was pretty cool and I thought he would make a good brother so I told him to come out to rush in the fall. one small problem is that he used to be a member of another national fraternity. he was pretty up front about it so I respect that I'm sure he could have hid it and nobody would ever have found out. and he has a letter of resignition from his nationals stating that he is no longer a member so I would think that everything would be alright with it.

[HPU PIKE]

I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that the individual has been privy to certain info (specifically ritual) in his original org. and for him to join another org. and to be exposed to that org's ritual would be a conflict of interest.

My personal opinion is that no matter how cool of a guy he is, I still wouldn't want him as part of my org. knowing that he has already de-brothered from another. In my way of thinking, Fraternities aren't clubs, you can't just join and quit them as you please.

[Diamond Delta]

NIC rules dictate that if he has resiged from the first and presents proof of that to the second, and the second wants him, he is free to join the second.

Now, if group #2 has it in their national bylaws they don't take members who have been previously contracted, then he can't join that group.

Now, there are several national fraternities that are not in the NIC and therefore, whatever the bylaws of group #2 are would dictate if he was allowed to join #2 or not.

Hell, if people can get divorced, why not this? Especially if he was up front and sincere about it.

[HPU PIKE]

Originally posted by Diamond Delta
Hell, if people can get divorced, why not this? Especially if he was up front and sincere about it.

Maybe I'm just overly sensitive when it comes to this issue, but as I stated above, most secret, social, college Fraternities (IMHO) are not clubs that can/should be joined in multiples. When you go through ritual, at least in my experience, you take an oath to THAT Fraternity, its ideals, its history, its founders who laid the foundation, its past members, and its current Brothers.

I understand that sometimes it is necessary for someone to de-Brother/quit a Fraternity. To each his own. But I would do everything in my power to prevent somone from joining my chapter who had ever gone through another Fraternity's ritual. Not to mention the fact that, although it may not be stated in the NIC guidelines, I am positive that some GLO's will deny membership to anyone who has ever been affiliated with another organization.

My best advice to the guy would be to try to enjoy the rest of his college days and not try to join another GLO. However, if he follows the appropriate NIC guidelines and all parties involved are satisfied, then best of luck to him in his 2nd Fraternity...maybe he'll stick with it this time?

...One of the many reasons why I'm glad the NPC's membership rule is the way it is.

[Kevin]

Also, many NIC groups (mine) want you to receive your dismissal from our group before you join another.

What that entails is sending a request in writing to our High Council which must be approved by them unanimously (I'm sure you'll have to have some special circumstances).

-- or you can just commit a felony which gets you automatically expelled

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by Diamond Delta
NIC rules dictate that if he has resiged from the first and presents proof of that to the second, and the second wants him, he is free to join the second.

That's almost correct. The resignation has to be accepted by the first GLO.

[beauti612]

Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
screw that. don't even give him a bid.

If he felt that the first organization he was in did not fulfill his needs or maybe there was a conflit of interest there, why would it be so bad for him to join another to make himself happy?
Maybe the second organization he may join will be the right one for him.

[Diamond Delta]

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
That's almost correct. The resignation has to be accepted by the first GLO.

Yes, of course. I was assuming it (the resignation) would be (accepted) when I posted that. I suppose there could be circumstances where that would happen. Thank you very much for clarifying!

[Tom Earp]

My question is, what is keeping this individual from doing the same thing to another Greek Organization?

Has that ever been brought up?

[UT SAE21]

we dont rape girls in our organization, he didnt go into detail and I dont blame him but something apparently happened to his niece at one of there parties.

[Tom Earp]

Hey, is this more info than is needed to be known?

Not being bad, but is it sure fire thing that happened?

Remember, We on this Site do not really know what happened.
If True, keep in mind that this person left. Not aying to much, I left and did start a Local. It does happen.

Need some more info, PM if you wish!

[texas*princess]

Originally posted by UT SAE21
we dont rape girls in our organization, he didnt go into detail and I dont blame him but something apparently happened to his niece at one of there parties.

hmmm that's interesting that you say this ^^^, because for whatever reason I feel like I read the same exact thing in another thread about disaffiliating and joining another NIC group....... I'll do a search and hopefully find it.

[TriDeltaGal]

Originally posted by OohTeenyWahine
...One of the many reasons why I'm glad the NPC's membership rule is the way it is.

I definitely agree!

[James]

I don't know about this. People generally join less GLOs than the amount of times they end up getting married during their lifetimes.

Wouldn't that make the GLO oath more sacred? Or more adhered to anyway?

Originally posted by Diamond Delta
There's already a thread on this pertaining to the "ethical" issues of dual membership.

I can assure you though, saying vows of marriage to your spouse in front of God and all others is way more sacred than a fraternity oath any day.