Ebay List

[HBADPi]

After speaking with several GC ADPis it seems that I am not the only one who is concerned with the list ebay screennames being available on such a public forum as GC. My concerns are two-fold. First, not all these names were accumulated through GC ADPi members and knowing several of these woman personally I do not think they would have consented to having their screennames posted publicly. Secondly, in our effort to win back pins, by posting these names we lose part of our anonmity. As we have seen before there are some very vengeful collectors and if they come across that list and see someone on that list is the highest bidder, they might just try to win the auction to piss us off. Also since word has gotten out about adpis contacting highest bidders, some collectors may try to come up with a GLO-affliated screenname just to get on our safe list. This also works the other way, as we have also seen, with having diliquent adpis on our list when they should not be.

My question to y'all is this: Should this list stay on GC or be posted on Pride Online where only sisters can access it and member information can be more easily checked?

[ASUADPi]

I guess I kind of see both sides of the coin.

As for the vengeful collectors, I guess we should just learn to harden ourselves to the fact that there are people in this world who are vengeful and there is really nothing we can do about it. We win some, we lose some.

As for collectors giving themselves a GLO screename, I for one when I email the person asking if they are an ADPi ask them to verify their chapter of initiation and school. A collector would have to go to a lot of trouble to find this information out. Again, if a collector does this, they are just vengeful and we again can't do really anything to stop it.

I like the idea of the EBay list being on GC but I also see why it is important to have it on PO. The problem with PO is any of the new members don't they either have to wait for their first Adelphean to come in the mail to get their login information or call EO to get their login? If this is the case, it seems like it would be a pain in the butt for new Delta's to look at this information.

Honey & TP whatever you two decide I will back you up!

[polarpi]

I agree with the concerns already stated above. I think my view of the matter is that the names should have been legitimately collected through us, either as our names/friend's names, etc, or by when we personally contact them and state this is what we are doing, then saying it is posted on a public forum and then asking them if they are all right with this.

Personally, I think people can check out bid histories and can find out a certain GLO in any case (in my case, I've only bid on ADPi merchandise, because I don't have a need to buy for anyone else at this time in another organization besides my own). I, too have been concerned about collectors making up a name with ADPi in it and then passing themselves off as a "safe" name to use, but I think using ASUADPi's method of politely asking them if they are a sister and what chapter and university they went to is a smart way of protecting ourselves. It isn't *impossible* to find out the information, but it isn't exactly lickety-split easy, either.

I love having Pride Online as a resource, but I tend to forget my login information and rarely check the boards there, because sometimes I find it hard to navigate around the site.

Whatever is decided, I'll support 100%, but it's kind of nice to have the list readily available here if I'm checking ebay rather than logging in to PO.

[ASUADPi]

Great points Jennie. So, so true about someone just checking our bid history. Same goes for me, someone would see that I only bid on ADPi stuff, so if someone really wants to find out they will.

I completely agree about PO. One other thing that I don't really like about PO is that you don't know if someone responds to your post. When GC was actually sending me emails letting me know someone had replied, I knew. (Unfortunately, now I have to check GC a gazillion times a day just to see if anyone has replied b/c those emails stopped about three weeks to a month ago).
I just find PO a pain to look at. You have to read response by response by response. Then go back each response. It's not set up like GC where you can get 5-8 or so responses per page. It just explains why I don't go to PO a whole heck of a lot.

As for the safe list, when I emailed people asking if they were a sister, I told them that I wanted to add their EBay name to our safe list in the ADPi forum of Greekchat. I didn't out right say "oh it's public" but any person (if they really wanted too) could go to the main greekchat page and then navigate to this forum where they would see that it is public.

[ADPiAkron]

I agree with all of the above statements. As for someone making up a screenname with a GLO in it...well then that would limit them to that specific GLO. If they just make the SN something Greek in general, well then by looking at their bid history we are going to see they are lying. Because a pin collector most likely will not just buy ADPi pins...so for example if they say they are an ADPi and want to be added to the safe list then why did they buy an XYZ, ABC, DEF, GHI..... pin too!! I don't know...just my 2 cents!!!

[texas*princess]

all great points

[WLFEO]

I know that PO has been overhauled & will be up & running this summer. I haven't seen it yet but supposedly it's really neat. The IOs are going to be trained on it at the end of June so it should be activated (is that a correct term?) by then. I am hoping the message boards will be more user-friendly and set up differently. Also we'll have individual log-in info instead of the numbers they give us. So personally I hope that a lot of stuff discussed here (on GC) can be done on PO intead. Also I've heard it will be easier to look up member databases so we can check who is really an initiated sister.

So I don't know if that helps our discussion on this thread, but that's the info I know.

Also, my 2 cents is that we need people's permission to post their screen names on a public forum (even though we don't post their real names).

[honeychile]

I'm VERY glad to hear the PO is going to be much more user-friendly this summer!! I try to keep up the site, but sometimes get so frustrated - especially the inability to edit or delete a post.

I don't know about anyone else, but I have ALWAYS asked for permission before posting someone's screen name.

Back the matter at hand, this is to be somewhat of a poll: Do you think we should keep a list of ebay users on Greek Chat, or do you think it should be kept only on PO?

[ASUADPi]

I personally think Greekchat because I RARELY go to PO. I'm ALWAYS on GC though.

Just my 2 cents.

[polarpi]

Originally posted by honeychile
I don't know about anyone else, but I have ALWAYS asked for permission before posting someone's screen name.

Back the matter at hand, this is to be somewhat of a poll: Do you think we should keep a list of ebay users on Greek Chat, or do you think it should be kept only on PO?

The only names I've given for the safe list are my own and my mom's, and I know she doesn't mind!

Back to the matter at hand, I'm also leaning more toward having the list on GC, but again, it's because I rarely check PO. Maybe after the overhaul is in place and we get used to the new system, we might decide to put it on there instead?

I know I sound wishy-washy, but that's my .02

[HBADPi]

I understand GC is easier to use but thats the point ANYONE can get to this list, that is my main concern. This is why my ebay screenname is not on there, I just like having the ability to bid anonymously. Not that I don't trust you guys, I just don't trust people I don't know, no offense intended.

With the changes in PO, things should be better. I know for a fact they are setting up a chat program too so you'll get to talk with other adpis who are on PO the same time as you. It seems everyone's main issue with PO is that its not user friendly, but obviously as WLFEO has pointed out, that all will change.

Another issue is with the list being on PO, more sisters can activate it and more names can be added. Not all adpis are on GC, obviously, and with new alphas or people on GC who have not received their login information but want the list, thats where a PM comes in. You guys need to start thinking globally when it comes to the saving pins effort. We are only a small percentage of adpis whereas PO will represent us all.

[ASUADPi]

On the flip side, not a lot of ADPi's are on PO. Yeah, when I go I see a lot of Delta Gamma is 'registered', but it doesn't mean they visit PO. In fact when I've actually visited the forum it really seems like only about 20-30 sisters actually post, which is about what it is here.

I respect that you don't want your EBay name to the list and that is totally your choice. But any of the names that I have "added" to the list I have received permission from that sister and she is aware that it is listed in a public forum. Which I'm sure is the case for about half, if not more of the list.

As for the collectors using our EBay names to outbid us and make the prices astronomical, I personally feel those people are few and far between but if there are some out there who must behave in this vengeful and childish way, then there is nothing that any of us can do about it. Like I said before, we win some, we lose some. And to reiterate what Jennie said, if the collectors really wanted too, they could just look at a person's bid history. For me they would see that I've only bid on ADPi merchandise and my SN say's ADPi in it.

As for the list, I still believe it needs to be on GC until at least PO is overhauled and a bit more user friendly. If your screen name is on the list and you don't want it there, PM Honey and she'll take it off. If you know of another sister whose SN is there and you know she wouldn't want it, again just PM Honey.

[honeychile]

I think the pros and cons of each way are clear at this point. At this point, we are taking a poll, and will do this democratically (ie: I'm not going to vote, as a mod).

Please vote:

I want the list to stay on GreekChat and PO.

I want the list to stay on PO ONLY.

I want the list to stay on both GreekChat and PO, but want another vote after PO is updated.


Every GC sister gets one vote, preferably in a post. If you feel awkward about posting your opinion, please PM either me or texas*princess, but state in a post that you have voted secretly through one of us. Let's get moving on this!!!!

Thank you!

[ADPiAkron]

#3

[ASUADPi]

Same here, #3