corporation

[fingerbang]

i know this may sound a little out their...


but have you ever really wondered what our beloved fraternities and sororities are comming to? Our nationals charge us high fees and protect us with their insurance policies but what are we really paying for? Were paying for their logo and their name which grants us privledge on campuses. In this age where we are continulously being punished for our actions it seems that more and more our nationals are turning into corporations licensing their logos and traditions to us. I loce my fraternity as much as the next person, but it seems that things are just not the same as they used to be, and that we are slowly being changed into clubs. i dunno im drunk but think about it. it seems that fraternities and sororities will one day disappear as we know it.

[DeltaSigStan]

I think in our situation, it's mostly the way SDSU, and certain IFC directors....are

Originally posted by fingerbang
i know this may sound a little out their...


but have you ever really wondered what our beloved fraternities and sororities are comming to? Our nationals charge us high fees and protect us with their insurance policies but what are we really paying for? Were paying for their logo and their name which grants us privledge on campuses. In this age where we are continulously being punished for our actions it seems that more and more our nationals are turning into corporations licensing their logos and traditions to us. I loce my fraternity as much as the next person, but it seems that things are just not the same as they used to be, and that we are slowly being changed into clubs. i dunno im drunk but think about it. it seems that fraternities and sororities will one day disappear as we know it.

[DeltAlum]

I think you overlook one important thing (among others). Without the overall "group" buying power of your national organization, insurance would probably cost MUCH more. In fact, it would probably be out of reach for most locals.

The "crackdown" if you will, on things like hazing and underage drinking is in response to those rising liability costs.

If you need proof of this, just take a look at the Risk Management forum.

[33girl]

Delt Alum you completely missed what he is saying. If all our affliation with nationals has come to is a purchasing group to make insurance cheaper, what is the point?

GLOs may be a business, but if the business so completely overtakes the brotherhood/sisterhood that you feel it is a detriment, it might cause one to think twice. Some people condemn TKE and say they're too easy on their chapters, but at least they don't knee-jerk punish and disband them due to one word from one disgruntled party guest. They stand by their brothers until the brothers show they're not worthy of it.

[DeltaSigStan]

Originally posted by 33girl

GLOs may be a business, but if the business so completely overtakes the brotherhood/sisterhood that you feel it is a detriment, it might cause one to think twice. Some people condemn TKE and say they're too easy on their chapters, but at least they don't knee-jerk punish and disband them due to one word from one disgruntled party guest. They stand by their brothers until the brothers show they're not worthy of it.

Hi, my beautiful ASA. Would you mind travelling to Indianapolis and telling my nationals that?

[33girl]

OK, we can just hit everyone who's there at once LOL...I'll call it a "values based empowerment workshop" and they all will show up.

[Tom Earp]

No, DeltaAlum did not miss the point.

Risk insurance is not by a Group of Greek Organizations, but by each one.

Corporations, yes:

Cost, Yes:

Where do your fees and dues go?

1. Having National Hdqs.

2. Having a paid staff to run day to day fundimentals.

3. Having People travel from chapter to chapter to work with them.

4. Getting prices on Badges, shirts, caps, etc. Try having a jeweler make your Badge!

5. Send out Your Organization News Letters.

6. Holding Area Regional meetings, like paying for the staff to be there to teach things.

7. Paying for taxes on National HQS, utilities, Insurance for the buildings. Traveling expenses for National Officers to come to Events.

It is funny, that this is brought up now, as when you graduate from school and start your house hold, guess what, it will start happening with you.

Ah it is so great to be a college student as there are so few things that must or need be to consider.

There are very few Greek Organizations who have a ton of money hidden back in a little room.


Why not ask YOUR NATIONAL how much it cost for Risk Management?

Whose fault is that when it gets so high

Is it YOUR Chapter or Your Fellow Brother and Sisters? Does everytime Your Greek Name is mentioned that the Risk Management Insurance go up?

It all comes down the long thread of belonging to a Greek Organization.

[fingerbang]

i dont even remember posting this but i stand by what i said. i understand what our money goes towards, but many of the things that are listed dont affect undergraduates.

1. badges arent paid by nationals, theyre paid with out initiation fee which is seperate

2. were an awesome chapter, people dont travel to help us cause we dont need it, our alumni in the area are awesome enough

3. newsletters? dont ever do anything for me. no useful infor just talk about all the philanthropies people have done.

i understand that the insurance policy is costly and i know if we were independent we wouldnt have it 33girl knows what im talking about.

[AOIIalum]

many of the things that are listed dont affect undergraduates.

I beg to disagree. Everything listed affects undergraduates, because in most cases they are the single largest active group of any GLO (with the possible exception of NHPC groups.) If we do not have active and viable collegiate chapters, we don't stay alive. Simple as that.

No argument on your #1. Badges are usually the responsibility of the initiate, as it is their badge.

It's wonderful that you are a member of a currently strong chapter with supportive and involved alumni. But, many chapters are not that lucky. The maintenance and growth of your own chapter AND your national/international good organization is every member's responsibility. All chapters must support themselves and their overall organization by financially ensuring a stable, strong and available support and training network throughout your GLO. Besides, what happens if one day your chapter needs these services? Involved local alumni are fantastic resources, but sometimes they are not current with governing policies or training methods.

Newsletters may not do anything for you, but what about your magazine? What about the other members of your chapter? They may enjoy reading what other local or regional chapters are doing to promote your brotherhood/sisterhood. These newsletters and magazines are economical ways to share what is going on throughout the entire organization and promotes fraternal unity. It's also a great way to get new ideas. If you don't personally care for them, then ask to be removed from any mailing list you are on as an individual member.

It costs money to run any organization. It costs to keep a GLO running, but it's not just GLOs. Masonic Temples, Junior Leagues, Friends of the Library, elementary school PTOs, High School band boosters, and even after-work softball leagues all have operating costs. It's part of being a member of whatever organization you choose to join.