beer in the house?

[Erik P Conard]

how do you handle beer/kegs/cans in the house? In states with
the drinking age under 21, the President is subject to arrest as
considered the enabler. What does adviser/board do? In the 50s we had clean house, but had a housemother too. This is but
one reason why risk management costs so high. This is ignoring the condition of the house...usually in shambles.
We do not want to yank the charter but when the guys don't listen....your opinions, please. TKE board member of 40 years

[KSUViolet06]

I'm pretty sure none of the sororities can have alcohol on sorority property. Not so sure about the guys though.

[AlethiaSi]

thats as far as national sororities go... depending on rules and whether you own your house....

my sorority owns our house- and always has- so the same rules really apply- we don't go parading around about having beer in the house- but there usually is- and we hold open parties and mixers there regularly...

as far as national fraternities- etc go- i'm not really sure how things operate- i would say as alumni and a board member- you guys have quite a bit of say of what goes on- but i really wouldn't have too much advise.. sorry

[WhiteDaisy128]

I know that NO Delta Gamma chapter can have alcohol on the house/lodge/floor/dorm/etc. property at all.

Additionally, no NPC sorority at my school is allowed to.

All the Fraternities at my school (NCSU) ARE allowed to have alcohol on their property...and do.

[Kevin]

My chapter's house is voluntarily dry -- we don't want the stuff at the house. It makes it a bad place to study. I think it's actually pretty nice to have a place that we can go and party where there will be no alcohol.

If there was a keg at our house, I suspect there'd be a brief show trial followed by an execution of some sort.

[ADPiShannan]

NO for all the sororities here too. We dont hold parties or mixers or anything. Its a HUGE deal if you would and we would get our charter yanked so fast. We follow the rule pretty close.

All the frats on our campus have parties except FIJI who is dry. I know that when people hear party not only do greek people come out, but tons of people so it can get crazy. Usually the police come by and call it quits if its loud so it doesnt get too out of control.

[AchtungBaby80]

Our whole campus was totally dry. Anyone with a house on campus couldn't have alcohol, sorority or fraternity. I'm not sure about the off-campus houses, though--a few fraternities had those, but they never had parties in them...they usually just used a member's off-campus apartment or house.

[ZTAngel]

I don't think any of the sororities were allowed to have alcohol within their house. It's their Nationals' policy.

We had a dry campus as well. When the fraternities had parties, they had to be registered. The police came to check on IDs and gave wrist bands to those who were 21 & up.

[Lady Pi Phi]

This is Pi Beta Phi's statement on alcohol.

Alcohol-Free Housing resolution

Whereas,
An alcohol-free living environment provides cleaner, safer facilities which are conducive to our mission of scholastic excellence and where behavior consistent with Fraternity principles can flourish; and

Whereas,
The misuse of alcohol by college and university students is contrary to the founding values and the standards of Greek organizations, detracts from the mission of higher education of our host institutions and endangers student welfare; and

Whereas,
All Pi Beta Phi Fraternity chapter facilities are and have always been alcohol free; and Whereas, Several National Interfraternity Conference fraternities have committed to, or are considering, establishing alcohol-free housing by the year 2000; and

Whereas,
Pi Beta Phi desires to be supportive of National Interfraternity Conference fraternity alcohol-free housing; therefore, be it

Resolved
That beginning with the fall term of the year 2000, Pi Beta Phi collegiate chapters will cosponsor functions at men's fraternity houses, dorms or lodges only if those facilities are alcohol free.


(found at http://www.pibetaphi.org)

[ASTLuv21]

I know on my campus (as of right now only 1 sorority and 1 fraternity have a house), the Phi Sigma Sigma house is owned by the university so no alcohol allowed in the house unless you are 21. Dorm rules apply. But I am pretty sure they don't allow acohol in their house anyway.

As for Theta Chi, they've been dry for awhile and now that Theta Chi is dry Nationally, they don't have alcoholic parties in their house and mixers are always dry anyway. They own their house, the university doesn't.

My bf's house, Theta Chi also at another school, only the brothers drink in the house (gf's too if of age) and then deposit the alcohol themselves. Also, only 21+ can drink which now isn't the case because they are all 21. They don't throw parties either. It is rare to see a brother drink in the house. I barely see them drink in the house only because they have a bar directly behind their house and one down the street. Lucky boys!

[pirepresent]

Phi Sigma Sigma's national housing policy states that no alcohol is ever allowed in a sorority facility, ever - just as an FYI

I am 99% sure every NPC group has the same policy.

[Betarulz!]

We're voluntarily dry in the eyes of Beta's GF, but we're in accordance with University rules about approved housing, so it's kinda mandated...the U isn't that great about enforcing it, and so their are some houses that are "damp" however no one parties in their house here at Nebraska any more. Some houses might host an afterhours at their house on campus, but such things are usually small, and I think have decreased a lot in the time that I've been here.

We have very set guidelines as to what happens if one is suspected of having alcohol in the house. Basically 3 execs have to be present for them to decide to search a room. If you voluntarily admit to it the first time you don't get fined, but you are sent to our judicial board.
If you don't admit to it and its' found...then the first time it's $100.
2nd time regardless of admittance $200
plus judicial board and whatever punishment they hand out.
3rd time is $300, and removal from the house, kicked off the roll, and you really don't exist anymore.

In the three years I've been here, the only time there have been any problems is people taking alcohol through the house on the way to somewhere else. No one has been caught with alcohol in their room, and it's not b/c we don't go searching, but b/c there really isn't any. If there is, it's probably less than a 6 pack in no more than 3 rooms throughout our 64 man capacity house.

[Adelphean]

On our campus, no sorority can have alcohol in the house.

But at the Fraternity houses... it's a free-for-all. We have one house that is dry, but honestly, I've NEVER been in that house when there wasn't a keg/bottle of Jack/case of beer being consumed. Another house "checks" IDs at the door. This consists of "Hey are you 21?" , "Of course I am!" However, this same house is the one that has a cop (an alum of the org) stand at the front door, he is also very uncaring a/b underage drinking.

The houses on our campus are pretty much unregulated. The Greek advisor for the guys doesn't really care what goes on. So, when the police show up at a party, the guys are on their own. But the police here are fairly understanding so nothing too bad has ever happened. But the police have been known to hand-out DUAs to various people they see at/in the house.

[LXAAlum]

Originally posted by ktsnake
My chapter's house is voluntarily dry -- we don't want the stuff at the house. It makes it a bad place to study. I think it's actually pretty nice to have a place that we can go and party where there will be no alcohol.

If there was a keg at our house, I suspect there'd be a brief show trial followed by an execution of some sort.

I thought Sigma Nu and Phi Delts led the way a few years ago to mandate dry houses by a certain date, right? (OK, Farmhouse has always been dry, but your two orgs were the first to revert back to the old standards of being dry)...

One thing I always found interesting is how much more trouble a chapter can get in (from an insurance perspective) for kegs versus open, individual containers....anyone with expertise care to elaborate?

Why I was stumped was in seeing a party of about 30 guys with a keg (for 30 guys...no big deal, right?), but the house next door held a function for 80+, but had CASES and CASES of beer (as far as potential individual intake, the cases of beer provided at least twice as much alcoholic beverages per member than the keg could have)...but both parties were busted, but the keg party got the worst of the sanctions, AND saw insurance go up.

These two orgs had a similar history in the past, so it isn't like one chapter was asking for more trouble...it was the keg that was singled out in the reports.....

Originally posted by LXAAlum
I thought Sigma Nu and Phi Delts led the way a few years ago to mandate dry houses by a certain date, right? (OK, Farmhouse has always been dry, but your two orgs were the first to revert back to the old standards of being dry)...

One thing I always found interesting is how much more trouble a chapter can get in (from an insurance perspective) for kegs versus open, individual containers....anyone with expertise care to elaborate?

Why I was stumped was in seeing a party of about 30 guys with a keg (for 30 guys...no big deal, right?), but the house next door held a function for 80+, but had CASES and CASES of beer (as far as potential individual intake, the cases of beer provided at least twice as much alcoholic beverages per member than the keg could have)...but both parties were busted, but the keg party got the worst of the sanctions, AND saw insurance go up.

These two orgs had a similar history in the past, so it isn't like one chapter was asking for more trouble...it was the keg that was singled out in the reports.....

What i remember from when i was an active, is that a house can go voluntarily dry, or can be required to be dry based on naional's decision. I know for us, we were restricted to one alcohol event at the house for a semester, due to our grades not beating the all male average.

Not during events, however, there was beer at the house that was purchased by those residents that lived there.

The deal about kegs is that it's percieved as encouraging mass consumption. Even when we had parties, the beer had to be in individual containers and when using a ticket system, only one drink could be given to a brother(or friend) at a time. It is supposedly supposed to regulate the amount of alcohol you can drink in an allotted amount of time.

Kitso
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