Who's Active? Who actually pays their dues to keep this organization alive?

[GoldnBlue2004]

Since everyone is always bickering about whether or not we should be called APO or whether we should be called A Phi Que, I just want to put out this question. Who is an active brother of this organization? Who actually pays their dues to not only their chapter, but nationally as well to keep Alpha Phi Omega alive? Are we dealing with persons who are still stuck in the old ways of the fraternity and cannot become acclamated with the changes that have occurred or are we dealing with those brothers that have a paid active voice in the organization, who have become acclamated with the changes that the orgnanization has made, and who has the common decency to accept others no matter whether or not they are female, male, black, white, etc.?

[xtc]

Originally posted by GoldnBlue2004
Since everyone is always bickering about whether or not we should be called APO or whether we should be called A Phi Que, I just want to put out this question. Who is an active brother of this organization? Who actually pays their dues to not only their chapter, but nationally as well to keep Alpha Phi Omega alive? Are we dealing with persons who are still stuck in the old ways of the fraternity and cannot become acclamated with the changes that have occurred or are we dealing with those brothers that have a paid active voice in the organization, who have become acclamated with the changes that the orgnanization has made, and who has the common decency to accept others no matter whether or not they are female, male, black, white, etc.?

as long as we are checking brothers up, let me speak my piece.
being that i am an alumni, i am not required to pay dues, but yes i do make contributions to the chapter at which i was initiated, substantial contributions at that. you can say that i am stuck in the old ways of the fraternity, but i would more or less say that i am ensuring that the traditions of our chapter have a future.

i am an alumni from an all-male chapter and would like to see my chapter remain that way. i dont disrespect female membership, and have accepted the fact that women are members of the fraternity.

i respect all members of Alpha Phi Omega as long as they respect me and the traditions that i stand for. you dont have to like me, just as i dont have to like you, but i will not disrespect your membership in the frat as long as you respect mine, and having said that there are a lot of things that i see that are blatant signs of disrespect. things such as using viking chants, or saying skeet skeet. you can say that you are a member and are privy to any rights that any other member is privy to, but i challenge you to find any where in your pledge manual where it mentions the frat calling out skeet-skeet, or having a call at all.

i am tired of watching co-ed members jock and mimic viking traditions, but then turn around and make vikings out to be the bad guys. not only do you disrespect us, but you disrespect yourselves because you mimic it and dont understand what it means and end up looking silly. i have mad respect for co-ed chapters that handle their business, do service, and uphold their OWN traditions, instead of stealing traditions from viking chapters and calling it their own.

X

[sweete81]

I know that it is about to get heated in here because y'all sound so angry, so for once I want to bring greetings of peace!!!

GoldnBlue-You remind me soooo much of one of my lb's that it is not even funny!!! Being Female and Black, I understand where you are coming from especially when you started this forum and agree with most of what you said...

Xtcasy
I understand where you are coming from too, oddly enough! That is what you know and you are trying to preserve what you know!!! Your chapter is all-male and you wish to keep it that way! Cool! Because

In all, it goes back to do RESPECT Noone has to agree with the other, that is what diversity is, the ability to do something different. But you do have to respect it. On the viking call, that is reserved for vikings, and it is disrespectful to "skeet" . But I don't see the problem with having a call, because I don't see it as a Viking thing but something black folks do regardless of organizations

And just out of curiousity, I know that I can't KNOW viking traditions, but what are they exactly, because the way I see it, what may be considered a viking tradition to one may be a school tradition to another...like stepping, some schools just step because it is their history, while some schools do it because it is the history or traditions of their chapter.

Just remember, that the key to love is respect, respect the right to be different.


9-ZP-03 Alpha Line

[Attractive#7]

wow...well first of all I am a paid member and active brother. i can understand where you are comding from goldnblue; however, there is a way to say everything. that's kinda disrespectful in the way you putting it out there. i respect all brothers, active or not. so to answer your question...i am an active and i voice my opinion. come aug. i will be an alumna of my university and a life member of my fraternity. i will still voice my opinion. i would hope that it could be both respected and appreciated.

[xtc]

Originally posted by sweete81
I know that it is about to get heated in here because y'all sound so angry, so for once I want to bring greetings of peace!!!

GoldnBlue-You remind me soooo much of one of my lb's that it is not even funny!!! Being Female and Black, I understand where you are coming from especially when you started this forum and agree with most of what you said...

Xtcasy
I understand where you are coming from too, oddly enough! That is what you know and you are trying to preserve what you know!!! Your chapter is all-male and you wish to keep it that way! Cool! Because

In all, it goes back to do RESPECT Noone has to agree with the other, that is what diversity is, the ability to do something different. But you do have to respect it. On the viking call, that is reserved for vikings, and it is disrespectful to "skeet" . But I don't see the problem with having a call, because I don't see it as a Viking thing but something black folks do regardless of organizations

And just out of curiousity, I know that I can't KNOW viking traditions, but what are they exactly, because the way I see it, what may be considered a viking tradition to one may be a school tradition to another...like stepping, some schools just step because it is their history, while some schools do it because it is the history or traditions of their chapter.

Just remember, that the key to love is respect, respect the right to be different.


9-ZP-03 Alpha Line

sweete 81, thank you for your response. i appreciate your insight and cherish your respect. to address your post, any SPECIFIC action or call or handsign that is viking tradition.

as far as having a call, i might not like it, but if you did it of your own volition then fine, i can only respect it, but if its something that you saw another viking do and thought that you should do it because it looks cool is a no no. i cant tell you not to step, because we didnt invent stepping, but when you take our steps and make it your own i have a problem with it. if you want to have a call then fine, make your own call, but dont yell out skeet skeet, and think that its cool; furthermore, dont mimic anybody else's call or cadence, cause whether you change the words or not, it is what it is: jocking.

we didnt invent handsigns, calls, stepping, or grips, but we do have specific handsigns, calls, steps, and grips, and when you steal them from us and use it as your own, its disrespectful.
not to say that i feel that your chapter in particular does this, because i know that your chapter has a rich heritage and tradion, but for those who are guilty of "borrowing" traditions, please stop.

respectfully,

X

again, thank you for responding, i appreciate the dialog as well as your insight into the matter.

[Senusret I]

Life Membership = PAID

[SprintPCS 1925]

I'm d@mn near a life member. I active financially, service wise, and fellowship wise. I also hold 2 positions in my chapter. This is a forum and whether or not you are active or inactive for whatever reason, you can voice your opinion.

[emb021]

Originally posted by GoldnBlue2004
Since everyone is always bickering about whether or not we should be called APO or whether we should be called A Phi Que, I just want to put out this question. Who is an active brother of this organization? Who actually pays their dues to not only their chapter, but nationally as well to keep Alpha Phi Omega alive? Are we dealing with persons who are still stuck in the old ways of the fraternity and cannot become acclamated with the changes that have occurred or are we dealing with those brothers that have a paid active voice in the organization, who have become acclamated with the changes that the orgnanization has made, and who has the common decency to accept others no matter whether or not they are female, male, black, white, etc.?

As an alumni, I pay no APO dues.

I am, however, a Life Member of APO.

I am an advisor and APO volunteer at sectional/regional/national member, so I spend a lot of my time/money on/for APO.

I am also a Torchbearer, and have been a Torchbearer for 5 years straight (since become a Life Member). I strongly feel that ALL Alumni should become Life Members and ALL Alumni should strongly consider becoming Torchbearers and annually making TB donations to our Fraternity. (and see if your employeer will make matching donations to increase what you give).

[Senusret I]

Originally posted by emb021
I am also a Torchbearer, and have been a Torchbearer for 5 years straight (since become a Life Member). I strongly feel that ALL Alumni should become Life Members and ALL Alumni should strongly consider becoming Torchbearers and annually making TB donations to our Fraternity. (and see if your employeer will make matching donations to increase what you give).

I'm trying to be a Torchbearer too, as soon as I get where I need/want to be financially.

Question....do the Torchbearer funds also go to the endowment?

[emb021]

Originally posted by Senusret I
I'm trying to be a Torchbearer too, as soon as I get where I need/want to be financially.

Question....do the Torchbearer funds also go to the endowment?

YES.

The Fraternity has goals each year for how much they want to raise for the endowement. All TBs are listed in the Spring issue of the T&T, you get a pin (small gold crest), certificate, and sticker. Each additional year you get another sticker to add to your certificate.

Here are the Torchbearer levels:
Torchbearer: $75
Silver TB: $150
Gold TB: $250
Diamond TB: $500
Silver Founders Circle: $1000
Gold Founders Circle: $2500
Diamond Founders Circle: $5000

Because I get matching funds from my employer, I get recognized as a Gold TB.

[bro_strawter]

I'm a life member as well.

Strawter

[Secretluv]

Originally posted by emb021
As an alumni, I pay no APO dues.

I am, however, a Life Member of APO.

I am an advisor and APO volunteer at sectional/regional/national member, so I spend a lot of my time/money on/for APO.

I am also a Torchbearer, and have been a Torchbearer for 5 years straight (since become a Life Member). I strongly feel that ALL Alumni should become Life Members and ALL Alumni should strongly consider becoming Torchbearers and annually making TB donations to our Fraternity. (and see if your employeer will make matching donations to increase what you give).

Hello Mr. Brown,

I don't know if you remember me but I introduced myself to you at Tau Mu's re-chartering ceremony... I asked you if you were a member of Greekchat .

I just wanted to say "Thank You" for coming out and sharing that wonderful experience with us.

~Secretluv~

[Secretluv]

Active...

Soon to be Life Member