ALI VS FRAZIER

AKA2D '91 · #1 06-03-2001, 11:13 AM

Muhammad's daughter, Laila and Joe's daughter, Jacqui are scheduled to RUMBLE
June 8th in New York. Many, many years after their legendary father's rumbled in the ring.

Jacqui Frazier said in a recent interview that she is looking forward to rumble against George Foreman's daughter sometime in the near future.

Let's get ready to rumbblleee...2nd generation FEMALE style?

jazbri · #2 06-03-2001, 06:35 PM

I'm curious what's everyones take on female boxing... Call me a sissy; but, it kind of makes me a lil nauseous (?sp). I can't really watch it. I guess I envision women as delicate and boxing, to me, is such a brutal violent sport that it's really shocking and uncomfortable for me to watch. I can watch the men; but, I guess I'm a punk where women are concerned.

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MS.REVLON · #3 06-03-2001, 08:49 PM

Being an avid boxing fan I am all siked up for the big fight next friday. I at first thaught female boxing was barbaric but until you see it live you can't really appreciate it. I still remember seing Christie Martin fight in Las Vegas some years back when female boxing started. In these days females are doing it all. Next is football. Which by the way there is a league in the works as we speak.:-p

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Monique · #4 06-04-2001, 11:34 AM

Go Aliiii

nikki25 · #5 06-04-2001, 02:01 PM

I was just speaking with my stylist the other day (he's a straight and masculine Black male)about this. I was saying that female boxing just doesn't strike me as very feminine and out of purpose. Its the "buffness", bloodiness, and high level of perspiration that I see amongst women boxers that looks unfeminine. My stylist was saying that nothing about these masculine looking women is attractive to him in the slightest. He said that he and most men are attracted to a feminine woman.

The boxers probably don't have a care in the world for feminity when they're in the ring as it's a sport for them. I applaud them on their efforts, but I would prefer not to see women looking like men. But then, I also don't watch the WNBA for the same reason.

I support the crossing gender efforts, but because of the unfeminine nature of the undertakings, I am not a spectator. I like looking at manly men being manly playing basketball, football, boxing, etc.

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maxx5 · #6 06-04-2001, 02:53 PM

In response to women boxing...
No disrespect intended, but if you look at L. Ali...(sans boxing gear), she is very feminine...(didn't she model, at one time...or am I thinking of someone else). She is beautiful, intelligent, articulate..etc! I think she represents us well. I don't think being a boxer takes away from her femininity....
I too, have mixed feelings about women boxing... But I don't think that they should stop boxing or stop pursuing their dream. I too, remember Christy Martin back in the day. She was very good at it and very passionate about it. I think she had found her niche. I think that if you find something that you want to do, and it makes you happy doing it, then you should go for it...(as long as it is legal).
Although it is not "the most feminine" thing for a woman to do...it is another step up in our goal to achieve equality. It may not be for all of us, but at least the ones interested in it will not be discriminated against by others(men) and they will have the freedom to do what they want to do.
Think about all the people that said women looked ridiculous playing basketball,soccer or even golf....
I don't think that I could do it..in fact, I know that I could not do it...but I give"props" to those that have the courage to get in that ring and do what they do!

nikki25 · #7 06-04-2001, 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by maxx5:
In response to women boxing...
No disrespect intended, but if you look at L. Ali...(sans boxing gear), she is very feminine...(didn't she model, at one time...or am I thinking of someone else). She is beautiful, intelligent, articulate..etc! I think she represents us well. I don't think being a boxer takes away from her femininity....
I too, have mixed feelings about women boxing... But I don't think that they should stop boxing or stop pursuing their dream. I too, remember Christy Martin back in the day. She was very good at it and very passionate about it. I think she had found her niche. I think that if you find something that you want to do, and it makes you happy doing it, then you should go for it...(as long as it is legal).
Although it is not "the most feminine" thing for a woman to do...it is another step up in our goal to achieve equality. It may not be for all of us, but at least the ones interested in it will not be discriminated against by others(men) and they will have the freedom to do what they want to do.
Think about all the people that said women looked ridiculous playing basketball,soccer or even golf....
I don't think that I could do it..in fact, I know that I could not do it...but I give"props" to those that have the courage to get in that ring and do what they do!

Remember: The sport is not the same as the person.

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nikki25 · #8 06-08-2001, 10:28 AM

Did anyone check these ladies out on Good Morning America today? They were speaking of their bout this evening. As I was watching it I thought that Laila came off as rather gruff and nasty in attitude. Jackie Frazier seemed bubbly and was really pumped up about the fight. Jackie is a trial attorney by trade, which seems pretty interesting. Laila is the full time boxer. They are sixteen years apart in age with Laila being younger. Both of them have good boxing records thusfar.

So, hmmmm who do you think will win? Do you think their actually in this thang for the sport, old time rivalry, or for the money?

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Oh Drama! · #9 06-08-2001, 10:57 AM

I heard both ladies in a piece on NPR (National Public Radio). I found Laila Ali to be poised and articulate… I found Jackie Frazier to be gruff and rather inarticulate. I’m sorry I missed the GMA interview because I was VERY disappoint with the Jackie Frazier’s interview on NPR (it was a piece on both boxers by the “Kitchen Sisters” –radio producers). As an attorney myself… it was hard to listen to Jackie “Smokin’ Sister” Frazier sound so inarticulate but after reading Nikki25’s comment maybe I’ll have to give her another chance. (Although having a law office above your father’s gym is like having a law office in a bowling alley...can anybody say NBC’s “ED”? – not hatin’ on the sister with her own firm however-DO YOUR THING GIRL!)

As far as the fight—I am hyped! If a sista’s got the heart and skills to box GO FOR IT! Shoot as hard as it is for me to just get to the gym... I APPLAUD them both for having the will and the drive to get in shape and keep motivated. Training for boxing is tough so.. SO GO LADIES!

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meeks · #10 06-08-2001, 11:26 AM

I agree with Oh Drama...if they want to box then go for it!!! I dunno maybe I am biased because I lift weights and do other things (to get some serious buffness) on a regular basis. People called me unfeminine cause I used to hoop with the fellas back in high school...I still hoop with my BF and he elbows, pushes, and fouls me and I him...And I'm as pretty as they come!

My point is these women as did others in traditionaly man dominated sports have entered into endeavors that once were not available to them....Feminity is not the issue, the issue is people making their dreams a reality and seeing them through, Ten years ago there were little girls who WISHED they could play in a league of there own (pardon the movie pun).

The little girls I coach want nothing more than to play basketball at all levels. What am I supposed to say "Oh sorry honey you can do that because its not feminine enough...but hey a better option would be to just watch and cheer the guys on from the sideline like a groupie." LOL yeah right...

Sorry this is so long winded can you tell I belong to the National Association of Women and Girls in Sport?

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SweetestDiva · #11 06-09-2001, 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by AKA2D '91:

Jacqui Frazier said in a recent interview that she is looking forward to rumble against George Foreman's daughter sometime in the near future.

LMAO!!!! I hope he has more than one daughter, because the one that goes to school with me would not HARDLY stand a chance in somebody's boxing ring. I'm not making fun cause she's a really sweet girl, but this right here is something I just cannot see. Jacqui ain't right.