Greek article on AIM today

phimuandfries · #1 01-30-2004, 03:35 PM

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/...0311706930.htm

have ya'll seen this? is this popular among fraternities, or just a few cases that have been called out?

PhiPsiRuss · #2 01-30-2004, 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by phimuandfries
http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/...0311706930.htm

have ya'll seen this? is this popular among fraternities, or just a few cases that have been called out?

It is not popular among fraternities. Animal abuse is such extreme, and rare behavior, that it always makes the news.

Kevin · #3 01-30-2004, 06:22 PM

"More recently, Phi Kappa Psi members killed, skinned, burned and ate a raccoon at the University of Georgia. "

I understand how the other two are cruelty. However, this one doesn't really strike me as being that bad. They killed and ate a raccoon. Look at the way it's written...

Killed, THEN skinned, THEN burned (why they said "burned" instead of cooked, I think is a great example of the story taking a pretty heavy slant), then eaten.

Well isn't that usually how it works when you kill something and eat it?

If it had been killed in a particularly cruel way, don't ya think the article would have mentioned that?

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But the puppy thing and the pig thing.. that stuff is definitely wrong. Lock 'em up and throw away the key.

thetalady · #4 01-30-2004, 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
"More recently, Phi Kappa Psi members killed, skinned, burned and ate a raccoon at the University of Georgia. "

I understand how the other two are cruelty. However, this one doesn't really strike me as being that bad. They killed and ate a raccoon. Look at the way it's written...

Killed, THEN skinned, THEN burned (why they said "burned" instead of cooked, I think is a great example of the story taking a pretty heavy slant), then eaten.

Well isn't that usually how it works when you kill something and eat it?

If it had been killed in a particularly cruel way, don't ya think the article would have mentioned that?
But the puppy thing and the pig thing.. that stuff is definitely wrong. Lock 'em up and throw away the key.

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Please check the Risk Management & Haxing topic on this. To quote the FULL article, not this summary:
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The men had spotted the raccoon behaving erratically outside the Phi Kappa Psi house at the University of Georgia on Dec. 12. One hit it with construction pylon and shot it with a pellet gun in the fraternity's parking lot, Athens-Clarke County Animal Control officials said. Another skinned the raccoon, and a third cooked and ate some of its meat.
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The 3 Stooges first tried to beat the animal to death. Failing to do that successfully, they shot it with a pellet (BB) gun which probably took quite a few shots to do the job.

Raccoons quite commonly carry rabies, FATAL to humans. This animal was reportedly acting erratically, a potential sign of infection. So what do they do?? KILL IT & EAT IT. How bad must the food in the house be, to make dead raccoon sound good?

Thank heavens they all survived... SO many villages would have been deprived of their idiots. I hope you change your mind about this kind of behavior.

josh8o · #5 01-30-2004, 10:30 PM

this is so crazy.....
my roommate is a district archon, and sits on our national exec council....he got a call from the associated press about it the other day....so crazy...

hoosier · #6 01-31-2004, 12:18 AM

They killed a possibly rabid coon.

Only the Greek-hating press and do gooders are pushing this - but they have a big bulldozer to do the pushing.

Kevin · #7 01-31-2004, 04:45 AM

Well crap... I hope they catch rabies

thetalady · #8 01-31-2004, 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by hoosier
They killed a possibly rabid coon.

Only the Greek-hating press and do gooders are pushing this - but they have a big bulldozer to do the pushing.

So does this mean that beating a sick animal to death is OK with you? What they did is cruel and against the law.

You say "do gooder" as if that is a BAD thing. I am very proud to be called a do gooder on occasion and in fact, work my butt off to live up to the label. Saving animals from idiots is doing God's work.

James · #9 01-31-2004, 06:18 PM

Please refresh my memory on the "nice" ways to take life Thetalady, they seem to have slipped my mind.

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Originally posted by thetalady
So does this mean that beating a sick animal to death is OK with you? What they did is cruel and against the law.

You say "do gooder" as if that is a BAD thing. I am very proud to be called a do gooder on occasion and in fact, work my butt off to live up to the label. Saving animals from idiots is doing God's work.

thetalady · #10 01-31-2004, 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by James
Please refresh my memory on the "nice" ways to take life Thetalady, they seem to have slipped my mind.

"Nice" wasn't my criticism. "Humane" is. I am not going to be a hypocrite and say that animals should not be killed and eaten. I'm no vegetarian either. I also acknowledge that the animal is still just as dead, no matter how it is killed.

However, there are ways to kill animals for food that are not cruel and do not involve long, drawn out suffering and pain. Beating it to death is not humane, nor is it acceptable in our society.

James · #11 01-31-2004, 09:34 PM

Don't they still do that in slaughter houses for the most part? And don't many people still hunt? Bullets hurt.

I understand the "spirit" you are writing in I just think you ae having a visceral reaction to something that ounds gross to you above and beyond the merits of the situation which could be just summed up as being stupid.

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Originally posted by thetalady
"Nice" wasn't my criticism. "Humane" is. I am not going to be a hypocrite and say that animals should not be killed and eaten. I'm no vegetarian either. I also acknowledge that the animal is still just as dead, no matter how it is killed.

However, there are ways to kill animals for food that are not cruel and do not involve long, drawn out suffering and pain. Beating it to death is not humane, nor is it acceptable in our society.

33girl · #12 01-31-2004, 09:53 PM

They should have shot it as it would have probably died immediately, but I'm guessing no one had a real gun (which is a good thing it appears).

No matter how much of an animal nut you are, when an animal starts to act as though it might attack you, your instincts take over and you either run like hell or try to whack its brains out with the nearest object at hand.