BGLOs DO NOT DEPLEDGE!!!

[Ice Cold Kreator]

Just so folks will know...you can't depledge a Black Greek Letter Organization.

Once you become a member, YOU ARE A MEMBER FOR LIFE!

Some of our organizations will expel you for inappropriate actions and common expressions about that include..."my letters maybe slipping off my chest."

However, this very very rare.

For our organizations, its very important that you know what you want to be before you join...and most importantly be chosen!

While this is a difference, it shouldnt discourage those from joining.

When members of our organizations graduate they (should) transfer into graduate/alumni chapters. Also, it is possible to pledge a BGLO after college graduation. We really stress a life time of service through the organization....and in many cases the Grad Chapters monetarily support the infrastructure and leadership of the organization.

Our organizations in order are:
ALPHA PHI ALPHA Fraternity, Inc. -- 1906
ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA Sorority, Inc. -- 1908
KAPPA ALPHA PSI Fraternity, Inc. -- 1911
OMEGA PSI PHI Fraternity, Inc. -- 1911
DELTA SIGMA THEATA Sorority, Inc. -- 1913
PHI BETA SIGMA Fraternity, Inc. -- 1914
ZETA PHI BETA Sorority, Inc. -- 1920
SIGMA GAMMA RHO Sorority, Inc. -- 1922
IOTA PHI THETA Fraternity, Inc. -- 1963

I hope this shed some light on this area of concern so that you can find a match for your interests.

By the way, I am brother of ALPHA PHI ALPHA -- The First of ALL BLACK GREEK LETTER ORGANIZATIONS.

While everyone can't be first...there is much love for my bruhz and sisters throughout the BGLOs...continue to work (on another level)

In the spirit of ALPHA,

I am,

The Ice Cold Kreator

[Sweetepie]

No disrespect intended, but Alpha Phi Alpha was NOT the first BGLO. It is just the oldest to date. The first was actually Sigma Pi Phi, which began in Pennsylvania.

No disrespect either. BGLOs may not call it depledging but I have known a couple of guys to "drop line". Even after all the research and getting "on line" (I know that term isn't really used any more), they found that the individual chapter didn't live up to their personal expectations.

Being an "ABC" on the national level said something, but the individual chapter was something left to be desired.

[Ice Cold Kreator]

While Sigma Pi Phi did begin in 1902 (I think), commonly known as the Boule', it is not a member of the BGLO...as well, it was not started by students in college...It was started by Professionals, Graduates of College fully ensconced into thier careers...

This remains a highly selective and worthy institutions of Black America (and America at large) but hardly can it be considered a member of the same league of organizations that we are referring to.

Not because it's better are worse...its different...

It would be a Black Greek Organizations...but can not be considered as the start of it all...

That's just my opinion...but I do thank you for your insight Sweetie Pie

In the Spirit of ALPHA,

I am,

Ice Cold Kreator...

[Sweetepie]

I completely agree with you. I really wish that Fraternity (and Sorority) members would stay on each others cases about how they represent their organization. So many bad apples make the bunch seem atrocious - which in their purest form are supposed to be wonderful and vehicles for unity and service.

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"Know your TRUE history"

[Sweetepie]

Ice Cold ....you are admirable. It is nice to see a courteous receptor of information rather than a defensive fool. You are A true Alpha MAN I see!!!!!! Its obvious that you know your history and are comfortable with your choice to join.

[33girl]

Just to clarify the terms I'm using:

Depledge = to quit pledging BEFORE YOU ARE INITIATED.

Terminate, disaffiliate, deactivate = to surrender your membership (or be expelled) after you have been initiated. (I think the term you use depends on the org &/or school)

Inactive = still a member but not participating for a number of reasons.

So Ice Cold Kreator, are we talking about the same thing? Does MIP have anything to do with this? (Slap me with a wet noodle if I'm not supposed to know.)

[ZetaAce]

And just to toss in my $.01...

Sigma Pi Phi, was the first BGLO (1902), but no they are not members of the NPHC. Alpha Phi Alpha is the first collegiate BGLO.

People DO disaffiliate from the BGLO they are members of.

ZetaAce

[Ice Cold Kreator]

I didn't know that you could turn your pin in!

Is that common place in Zeta...cause I've never heard of that happening in any of the others....

If this is a little much...just e-mail what you can...

Alright

[ZetaAce]

No, it's not common by any means. But it does happen in ALL of the NPHC organizations. For example, there is a guy that used to post on here by the name of Fred Hatchett, he was an Omega, and no longer associates himself with Omega. He believes that being in a GLO is contrary to the preachings of the bible, and thus chose to 'disaffiliate'.

ZetaAce

Disclaimer: The word disaffiliate, is my choice of words and not those of Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Inc. or of the NPHC!

I wholeheartedly agree with your statement. However, the guys that I know wanted to be apart of this particular national because of everything that it represents. There are other chapters in the state that are very strong and do the national justice.

On the other hand, the chapter in question was weaker (less than 10 actives). The two guys wanted to pledge (not the PC word any more) and become active to turn things around. That didn't happen. While on line (slang term for the new member period before initiation), the majority of the actives were "frivolous" but things got worse as time progressed. It was all about the next party and no service, which was the main thing that the guys wanted to change. It got to be too much and the guys quit before initiation. The chapter lost its national recognition the following semester.

It was a shame.

Originally posted by Ice Cold Kreator:

Meme...While every organization has its problems, all people should be judged individualy regardless of rep....Members are just as good as the chapter that they serve in...I'll say it again as I've said before..."if your organization projects frivality..then the people that will want to join will be frivolous!!"

[Ice Cold Kreator]

Thanx Sweetiepie...I try

Zeta Ace...I'm not familiar of any process in which you can disaffiliate...and I have friends across all BGLOs.

I can for sure say that doesn't happen in ALPHA...while you can go inactive you can't choose to be not a brother or a soror...

In fact, one of my friends would like to give up membership to her sorority b/c of various reasons...but there is no way to do that....except to get thrown out...

to 33 girl -- yes you can "drop line"...but I was under the impression that depleding occurs after one has been ininitiated in to the NPHC or NPC. MIP is the process in which you go through to become a member

Meme...While every organization has its problems, all people should be judged individualy regardless of rep....Members are just as good as the chapter that they serve in...I'll say it again as I've said before..."if your organization projects frivality..then the people that will want to join will be frivolous!!"

That's Kind of an open Issue...

In the spirit of ALPHA,

I am,

Ice Cold Kreator

[ZetaAce]

Originally posted by Ice Cold Kreator:
Zeta Ace...I'm not familiar of any process in which you can disaffiliate...and I have friends across all BGLOs.

When I say disaffiliate, I mean you turn in your pin to Nationals and you no longer claim membership in the organization. (I'm not saying that is the official term in anyone's org, just using it as a means of description.)

ZetaAce

[This message has been edited by ZetaAce (edited August 03, 2000).]

I completely appreciate your pride in Alpha Phi Alpha. A close friend of mine is one of your Frat.

However, I think that is important that you realize that sororities and fraternities that are not historically black take just as much pride and consideration in who they invite into their sisterhood/brotherhood.

I'm not saying that all houses feel or act in this way, but the same can be said of any black sorority or fraternity. Though all chapters of Greek organizations share similar beliefs and practices, each chapter differs from another. So, it is completely feasible that any particular chapter of a national may be less picky or concerned about potential or pledging members.

Thanks

Kim

Originally posted by Ice Cold Kreator:
I was under the impression that depledging occurs after one has been ininitiated in to the NPHC or NPC

No, depledging (at least in the NPC sense) means dropping out after pledging, but BEFORE being initiated into full-fledged membership.