CBS Slandering Reagan...

krazy · #1 10-28-2003, 01:02 PM

What does everyone think about this new show coming out on CBS that is mis-quoting Reagan and his family? Why would these guys put out such a horrible show? I have seen a number of interviews with White House Aids and other Reagan-era politicians (OF BOTH PARTIES) that are calling this series absurd. They had someone on Fox the other night that almost broke into tears over this. I wonder why Fox seems to be the only news channel reporting on the admitted false quotes added by the creators of this show. Hmmmmm.

DeltAlum · #2 10-28-2003, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by krazy
I wonder why Fox seems to be the only news channel reporting on the admitted false quotes added by the creators of this show. Hmmmmm.

I'm not aware of what show you're talking about, but do have a question.

Who "admitted" that the quotes are false? Is it someone who is a position to know, and also someone who wouldn't be affected one way or another?

As for FOX, remember that the President, Roger Ailes, made his fortune as a Republican strategist -- particularly as media genious and advisor for Richard Nixon. Thay have been noted to be somewhat less than "ballanced" in their coverage.

#3 10-28-2003, 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
I'm not aware of what show you're talking about, but do have a question.

Who "admitted" that the quotes are false? Is it someone who is a position to know, and also someone who wouldn't be affected one way or another?

As for FOX, remember that the President, Roger Ailes, made his fortune as a Republican strategist -- particularly as media genious and advisor for Richard Nixon. Thay have been noted to be somewhat less than "ballanced" in their coverage.

That may all be true, but the president of CBS is a notorious FOB (friend of Bill) which, added to the fact that husband of barbra striesand is in this movie would lead me to believe it carries far left leanings.

I'm not going to watch it.

Kitso
KS 361

DeltAlum · #4 10-28-2003, 04:20 PM

So, is this a made for TV movie?

And who is the President of CBS this week? That's not being facetious, there have been so many changes at the top in that organization, I've lost track.

#5 10-28-2003, 04:29 PM

Andrew Heyward.

They were talking about this on O'Reilly the other night and one of O'Reilly's guests commented that Heyward's office is full of pictures of him with former President Clinton.

Kitso
KS 361 times it's a made-for-TV movie, and a bad one at that

DeltAlum · #6 10-28-2003, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
Andrew Heyward.

Kitso
KS 361 times it's a made-for-TV movie, and a bad one at that

Oh yeah. I think he was an EP on the Today Show for a while if I've got the right guy.

Sounds like a real bad one. Damn, I hate the November Sweeps!

krazy · #7 10-28-2003, 05:53 PM

Admitted by CBS, publically. These quotes were fabricated. You say they have been noted to be less balanced... To that I ask... Noted by whom? The Leftist Media? AL Franken? Regardless of what these Media Lords choose as their political party, they should not base their channel around it... Fox is the only station to actually present both sides of every story... both sides.... don't believe me? Think I am a NEOCON? Turn the station on... check it out... I think you will agree.

Kevin · #8 10-28-2003, 06:30 PM

I think one contraversial statement has Reagan saying that people that contract AIDS "deserve" to die or something to that effect. It's a statement that even the writers admit they have no evidence of him ever saying or believing that.

DeltAlum · #9 10-28-2003, 06:33 PM

Krazy,

I'm probably the most apolitical person on GC. I get frustrated at the baying from all sides of the political spectrum.

However, I have spent over thirty-five years in broadcasting -- from local to network.

And...

I've met Roger Ailes (Fox Newschannel President), who is also a fellow Ohio University graduate. The Manager of Production at FOX is a friend and former NBC employee. I've also met their Manager of Network Operations on a number of occassions. I've spent a little (not a lot) of time in the New York HQ.

I'm sorry, but from a pure journalistic standpoint, FOX is just to the right of Atilla the Hun.

They have a barely hidden Conservative Republican agenda that, in the old days of "The Fairness Doctrine" (Communications Act of 1934 which governed broadcasting up until the late 1990's) had they been an on-air TV station would conceivably have cost them their license. Fortunately for them they're on cable, and networks aren't licensed anyway -- just their owned stations.

You may consider the other networks "left-wing" or "liberal" or whatever, but the fact is that they DO have owned on-air stations and are governed by FCC rules and regulations (with the exception of CNN -- remember that there is a clear distinction between FOX News Channel and the FOX on-air station, as there is between CNN and WTBS in Atlanta) So, ABC, NBC and CBS have a LOT more at stake in terms of fairness.

I suggest that what would appear to me to be your political leanings might color your thoughts on the other media. Almost everyone's do one way or the other.

Remember, too, that if this is a made for TV movie, CBS is probably NOT the producer and probably had little or no input into the content and/or production.

And, if they are admitting things are fabricated, that's probably a good thing. It could save their TV stations' licenses.

An aside:

By the way, Kitso, I'm pretty sure Heyward is the guy I was thinking about. He's the President of the CBS News Division. I used to do a fair amount of on location directing for TODAY in a previous lifetime. I am still trying to figure out who the President of the CBS Network is.

GeekyPenguin · #10 10-28-2003, 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by krazy
Admitted by CBS, publically. These quotes were fabricated. You say they have been noted to be less balanced... To that I ask... Noted by whom? The Leftist Media? AL Franken? Regardless of what these Media Lords choose as their political party, they should not base their channel around it... Fox is the only station to actually present both sides of every story... both sides.... don't believe me? Think I am a NEOCON? Turn the station on... check it out... I think you will agree.

You know what, kiddo? It goes both ways. "The Leftist Media" has a counterpart in the "Right-Wing Media." Fox, Rush Limbaught, etc. If you think Fox is both sides of the story, that's your perogative, but you're going to find a lot of people who don't agree with you.

Personally, I find FOX hilarious, their news is so funny! They're such a second-tier station in Milwaukee that I watch their news when I want comic relief. Look at what DeltAlum said if you want the facts on Fox.

Rudey · #11 10-28-2003, 07:07 PM

All I know is Reagan is the last great American.

-Rudey
--He did some great things even if he can't remember them.

damasa · #12 10-28-2003, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by krazy
Admitted by CBS, publically. These quotes were fabricated. You say they have been noted to be less balanced... To that I ask... Noted by whom? The Leftist Media? AL Franken? Regardless of what these Media Lords choose as their political party, they should not base their channel around it... Fox is the only station to actually present both sides of every story... both sides.... don't believe me? Think I am a NEOCON? Turn the station on... check it out... I think you will agree.

They might present both sides of some stories, but certainly not every, not by a long shot. I have turned it on and I have checked it out and I disagree with you as strongly as I can. Fox has you, that is all.

LOL @ Fox being fair and balanced.

bethany1982 · #13 10-28-2003, 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
All I know is Reagan is the last great American.

-Rudey
--He did some great things even if he can't remember them.

He is great, but not the last...

And... LOL at the networks not having a liberal agenda.

Tom Earp · #14 10-28-2003, 07:57 PM

Once again Rudey you put something in that is inane!

Last Great President was Harry Truman. The rest were Also Rans or Crooks, oh forgot about Sexually going for it! So who cares. Most did! Power is Good. Use it!

Reagen was a Grade B Actor who became Gov. of Ca. So what else is new in the land of Fruits and Nuts? Well if it wasnt for Nancy, hell, he could not find his boxer shorts in the morning. He played a Role.

In todays Society, The Poloticins are in a Vocation and want power, do that ring a bell?

Pardon oui Rudey, I need to Go to The Rudey and Take a Rudey!

Yu a great greekchat membrain.

Oh, back to Ronnie.

How about watching the movie, then rush to judement

Body Chek, Boy Yu int got the stones, you woosy!

GeekyPenguin · #15 10-28-2003, 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by Tom Earp
Once again Rudey you put something in that is inane!

Last Great President was Harry Truman. The rest were Also Rans or Crooks, oh forgot about Sexually going for it! So who cares. Most did! Power is Good. Use it!

Reagen was a Grade B Actor who became Gov. of Ca. So what else is new in the land of Fruits and Nuts? Well if it wasnt for Nancy, hell, he could not find his boxer shorts in the morning. He played a Role.

In todays Society, The Poloticins are in a Vocation and want power, do that ring a bell?

Pardon oui Rudey, I need to Go to The Rudey and Take a Rudey!

Yu a great greekchat membrain.

Oh, back to Ronnie.

How about watching the movie, then rush to judement

Body Chek, Boy Yu int got the stones, you woosy!

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