Weigh In: Senate Passes Ban on Late Term Abortion

MereMere21 · #1 10-21-2003, 06:56 PM

http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews...ion.c3978.html

This bill does not include a clause to allow it only when the woman's health is at risk - Clinton vetoed previous attempts at this bill because there was no allowance for the mother's health. What does everyone think about this? (these types of abortions are performed after the 3rd month of pregnancy)

EDITED to say - please don't turn this into a bashing thread, we all know who is pro choice and pro life - this was mainly to see even if the pro choicer's agreed with this ban or not.

damasa · #2 10-21-2003, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by MereMere21
http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews...ion.c3978.html

This bill does not include a clause to allow it only when the woman's health is at risk - Clinton vetoed previous attempts at this bill because there was no allowance for the mother's health. What does everyone think about this? (these types of abortions are performed after the 3rd month of pregnancy)

EDITED to say - please don't turn this into a bashing thread, we all know who is pro choice and pro life - this was mainly to see even if the pro choicer's agreed with this ban or not.

I believe that this will be challenged. I believe that this ban (I hope) will be found to be unconstitutional.

It makes no sense to pass such a bill that wouldn't have a clause that allows the procedure if the mother's life is at risk. It's like saying the mother has to give her life in order to save the life of the fetus/baby and I think that this is very hypocritical.

People are already calling it a "historical vote" or a "historical day" but there is much a battle to still be had.

bethany1982 · #3 10-21-2003, 07:24 PM

I think they should have considered the health of the mother.

ThetaPrincess24 · #4 10-21-2003, 07:32 PM

As a devout catholic, I'm pleased with this ban, but on the other hand as a future health professional I'm slightly torn too.........other than that I'm not going to touch this topic with a 100 foot pole nor read this post again for the sake of me not getting pissed off at anyone.

Kevin · #5 10-21-2003, 07:33 PM

I don't think the Supreme Court will uphold it. If you're a strict interpretationist then it's totally Constitutional. The SC walks a fine line between interpreting existing law and writing new law. They'll most likely strike this one down.

My guess as to why would be that it doesn't take into consideration the health risks the mother might be facing.

GeekyPenguin · #6 10-21-2003, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by damasa
I believe that this will be challenged. I believe that this ban (I hope) will be found to be unconstitutional.

It makes no sense to pass such a bill that wouldn't have a clause that allows the procedure if the mother's life is at risk. It's like saying the mother has to give her life in order to save the life of the fetus/baby and I think that this is very hypocritical.

People are already calling it a "historical vote" or a "historical day" but there is much a battle to still be had.

Co-sign.

Although I am very pro-choice, I don't think women should be having abortions that late in the game unless there is a medical reason such as the health of the mother, etc. However, I think this bill was just a step in the anti-abortionist's attempts to illegalize abortion altogether.

Munchkin03 · #7 10-21-2003, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by damasa
It makes no sense to pass such a bill that wouldn't have a clause that allows the procedure if the mother's life is at risk. It's like saying the mother has to give her life in order to save the life of the fetus/baby and I think that this is very hypocritical.

Ditto. I don't see this one making it past the Supreme Court.

James · #8 10-21-2003, 08:41 PM

I think its a matter of rationalization.

Pro-lifers want to chip away at abortion.

I am pro-choice. I am not sure that killing a fetus earlier in a pregnancy somehow makes it better, nor does killing it later make it worse.

adpialumcsuc · #9 10-21-2003, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Co-sign.

Although I am very pro-choice, I don't think women should be having abortions that late in the game unless there is a medical reason such as the health of the mother, etc. However, I think this bill was just a step in the anti-abortionist's attempts to illegalize abortion altogether.

I agree!!!

#10 10-21-2003, 08:48 PM

Unless there is a medical reason for abortion, I feel that abortion isn't a very good choice. This is my opinion of course. Since this bill isn't taking the mother's health into consideration, this bill shouldn't have passed in any law-making entity. Why should a mother give up her life during labor or pregnancy? It's a shame that the government is taking away a mother's life in order to save a baby. Personally, if I was pregnant and knew I was going to die during the labor, I would abort the baby because I think every child should have his or her mother. Having a mother is or should be a natural part of life. What would one do without their mom? Since abortion is looked at as murder to some, then, wouldn't allowing the mother, who is going to die during the pregnancy, murder as well? Either way, in that situation, somebody's going to die. If one sees abortion as murder, then, it only makes sense to look at allowing the mother to die as murder too.

Hootie · #11 10-21-2003, 08:55 PM

I'm sorta torn when it comes to abortion...but in this situation I'm all pro-choice. My family knew a woman who had 5 children. She had a terrible time with the pregnancy and when it came down to it, the doctors told her she would die if she had the baby. She chose to go through with the birth, and yes she did die. I remember my mom remarking that she would have done the same thing. But yet, I still feel it should be the choice of the mother/father. She had 4 normal, healthy children by this time and if she had chosen to abort the baby it's not as if she was practicing unplanned parenthood. But it was her moral choice and it was left at that.

Imthachamp · #12 10-21-2003, 09:22 PM

if a woman is gonna die from giving birth, she should take it like a (wo)man.

Hootie · #13 10-21-2003, 09:25 PM

So, um what you're saying is that no matter the situation...the person should die like a man? Suck it up?

If we should, why do we have modern medicine?

Imthachamp · #14 10-21-2003, 09:28 PM

yes

chopper816 · #15 10-21-2003, 09:28 PM

i think that banning late term abortions is a good decision b/c we learned in a class the procedure involved, and i dont agree with it. however, the health of the mother is also important, and i agree with a lot of you, it should be taken into consideration.