"Real Fraternities"

DeltaSigStan · #1 07-10-2004, 02:26 PM

http://forums.greekchat.com/gcforums...threadid=53288

If he's not talking about locals and commuter schools, then what NIC fraternities is he talking about?

Tom Earp · #2 07-10-2004, 03:36 PM

All Stan, All!

Live and Learn!

DeltaSigStan · #3 07-10-2004, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
All Stan, All!

Live and Learn!

In the words of Mr. Garrison:

"Ok, now let's hear from some one who isn't a complete retard."

Erik P Conard · #4 07-10-2004, 03:56 PM

The very reason I posted this topic on the TKE site and not on the
general was 'cause I do not wish to have it included amongst the
'new" or "diverse' or "extension" schools....did you read this?
If you did not, then please do...
Of my era and others, perhaps, I have a concept of fraternity. It
does not include twenty member chapters nor those without a
housing provision--all a part of the fraternity experience...in MY
opinion. I welcome yours but do not necessarily agree with your
concept. You are poor examples in many cases, of what we used
to call manners, discretion, and leadership. But, again, this is my
opinion. And I still am not aiming at the general 'Greek Chat"
audience...I want no part of you. Get back in traction.

Tom Earp · #5 07-10-2004, 03:57 PM

Why Stan. What do you mean????

If the Garrison Crack was made towards me, then I guess We are back at War.

If you are talking about The Garrison Of Ls. then how do you not know He was not right?

If again it is, then how do you know, you were not even born then!

Some times your posts are as Bad As Mine, I dont use Drugs either!

DeltaSigStan · #6 07-10-2004, 03:58 PM

Well, if you posted in it in the TKE forum, that would mean you're only directing it at the TKE chapters that fit this description of what a fraternity isn't. So, what good would it be only discussing one fraternity? We should expand the discussiong by at least talking about others

I think anyone would take offense to not being called a real fraternity, but, hey, that's just me, you have your opinion and you have mine.

DeltaSigStan · #7 07-10-2004, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Why Stan. What do you mean????

If the Garrison Crack was made towards me, then I guess We are back at War.

If you are talking about The Garrison Of Ls. then how do you not know He was not right?

If again it is, then how do you know, you were not even born then!

Some times your posts are as Bad As Mine, I dont use Drugs either!

Garrison of Ls? You MUST be high.

It's from South Park, have a laugh, hahaha.

Senusret I · #8 07-10-2004, 04:10 PM

*dead* after reading the signature alone.

Tom Earp · #9 07-10-2004, 04:12 PM

Stan, that is why you are a KID!

Your History really goes back so far! Da, a cartoon show.

Why dont you get off of Your Alum ass and find out about USA History.

Hint, Kennedy assainatin. There was a Garrison that was making allegations about Kennedys Death! He was from New Orleans! Local DA!

Is that a hint enuff.? Drive or ride the shooting scene.

I know this is off subject, but damn Stan, you are losing a lot here!

Get off of the Horse you are trying to ride, it aint white, but a muddy brown!

DeltaSigStan · #10 07-10-2004, 04:41 PM

Damn Tom, I was kidding around, and I'm well aware of whatever history lesson you're trying to pass off...it's all good though, in your old age your eyes need the excersize, so roll all you want

Relax and take a midol old man before you trip over your walker and break your artificial hip

Whatever I'm losing, you lost it 60 yrs ago...

starang21 · #11 07-10-2004, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Stan, that is why you are a KID!

Your History really goes back so far! Da, a cartoon show.

Why dont you get off of Your Alum ass and find out about USA History.

Hint, Kennedy assainatin. There was a Garrison that was making allegations about Kennedys Death! He was from New Orleans! Local DA!

Is that a hint enuff.? Drive or ride the shooting scene.

I know this is off subject, but damn Stan, you are losing a lot here!

Get off of the Horse you are trying to ride, it aint white, but a muddy brown!

off track posts for 1000, alex.

Kevin · #12 07-10-2004, 06:06 PM

Erick is right to an extent. The Greek system is different at commuter and extension schools largely. However, this is not always the case.

Many commuter and extension schools are currently morphing into more traditional, full size schools as public education expands. As they expand, so do the GLO chapters there. And as that happens, more of them start to get up to 80-100 members, having large plants and even house moms.

It can happen anywhere with the right alum support and the right leadership. It's not the school so much as the alums and they system. You can have a great system even at your "streetcar" campuses.

40 years ago (or something like that), Erick saw the University of Central Oklahoma, my alma mater. At the time, the greek system there was either not yet started, or just a very small system. The school was a teacher college with the only funeral sciences program in the state. Probably didn't have a lot more than that at the time. Since then, the campus has become largely residential/traditional, we've added MANY new degrees and masters programs, we have some nationally recognized programs including our forensics and broadcasting programs to name two.. And of course, a student body of around 15,000. Vastly larger than it was just a few years ago.

As the university has grown, so has the Greek System. I don't think we're to the point yet where we're adding fraternity chapters at Vo-Tech schools or beauty colleges. I'd probably be against that as well. As long as it's a 4-year college where you can one day call yourself an alumnus of such and such university, I don't see what the problem is.

g41965 · #13 07-11-2004, 12:31 AM

I've seen commuter schools turn into more traditional Greek Life schools. UT-Arlington and UNT both have established Greek Rows twenty years ago half the GLO's lived in old ranch houses and the other half were unhoused.
Don't be so quick to blow off commuter schools.

Kevin · #14 07-11-2004, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by g41965
I've seen commuter schools turn into more traditional Greek Life schools. UT-Arlington and UNT both have established Greek Rows twenty years ago half the GLO's lived in old ranch houses and the other half were unhoused.
Don't be so quick to blow off commuter schools.

I've been to both of those campuses and they're not really commuter schools. They have very large on-campus housing. UNT is actually a pretty big school and plays D-1A football.

Tom Earp · #15 07-11-2004, 11:46 AM

Granted, many commuter schools have expaned in to full blown 4 year schools.

It used to be, that JUCOs and Commuter schools were for those that couldnt afford to go to full 4 year colleges.

Heck, with all of the tuition hikes, these types of schools may be come the vouge again.

How many feel that a two year school shold have a chapter of your Orgaization?

If it happens, how many two year students will make good alums of any orgaization?