No pledge class next semester.

archangel689 · #1 05-20-2003, 03:17 PM

So we get this letter this morning saying that us, Sig Nu, Sig Tau, SAE and ZTA arent allowed to take new members next semester because our associate member programs "were not approved of by the office of greek life"

It "was not approved of" and they requested we fix it and resubmit it, and we did... Our program which was submitted is our National pledge program... so umm.. there going to be some problems. Suggestions anyone??? Anyone been in this situation?

We were supposed to chapterize and then this shit happens...

kddani · #2 05-20-2003, 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by archangel689
So we get this letter this morning saying that us, Sig Nu, Sig Tau, SAE and ZTA arent allowed to take new members next semester because our associate member programs "were not approved of by the office of greek life"

It "was not approved of" and they requested we fix it and resubmit it, and we did... Our program which was submitted is our National pledge program... so umm.. there going to be some problems. Suggestions anyone??? Anyone been in this situation?

We were supposed to chapterize and then this shit happens...

Woohoo, more BS from Duquesne greek life

One of my friends is a Delta Chi advisor so I get to hear all about it.

It sure seems that Duq is trying to make up rules that don't exist again and that they really don't have a leg to stand on with them. Contact your national office right away and get them on it.

How can they "not approve" of your national new member program???????

texas*princess · #3 05-20-2003, 06:12 PM

that's really odd

sugar and spice · #4 05-20-2003, 07:33 PM

I'd check in with your nationals about that . . . I know that according to Panhel rules, every sorority is allowed to take a pledge class (unless, of course, they're at total) regardless of any rules they might have violated in the past year, and I imagine that IFC would work the same way.

astroAPhi · #5 05-20-2003, 07:35 PM

I would definitely have your nationals talk to them about that. It would probably have a bigger impact than your chapter simply telling the school that... they might not believe you.

DigitalAngel126 · #6 05-20-2003, 08:16 PM

<---- That's what I would tell them.

RockChalk · #7 05-20-2003, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by DigitalAngel126
<---- That's what I would tell them.

LOL!!

Glitter650 · #8 05-20-2003, 09:59 PM

What exactly do they not approve of ? I mean the only thing I would think they could disapprove of is any hazing, and I'm sure that ZTA doesn't include hazing in their new member program... so what gives ?

steelepike · #9 05-20-2003, 11:13 PM

Very weird

Tom Earp · #10 05-20-2003, 11:16 PM

It sounds like the Nationals should step in to inquire.

It sounds like the Greek Orgs should contact their Alums..

Enuff said on that!

texas*princess · #11 05-21-2003, 12:21 AM

I definately agree that the Nationals should step in to inquire what's going on.

sugar and spice · #12 05-21-2003, 12:26 AM

I believe it's a rule in the NPC's "Green Book," which lists all the rules that govern NPC sororities. Panhellenic should have a copy of it. Tell ZTA to check over the Green Book, and if IFC has a similar book, you guys should go through that too.

What exactly did the school find so questionable about these new member programs?

AZ-AlphaXi · #13 05-21-2003, 09:24 AM

From the NPC "green book" 13th Edition

Under Unanimous agreements:

II Jurisdiction of Panhellenic Associations (pg 21)
1) Collegiate Panhellenic Associations
...
C) A college Panhellenic Council shall take no action which
infringes on the sovereignty, rights, or privileges of the
individual NPC fraternities. Infringements include but are
not limited to the following:
..
7) lowering a chapter's quota as a penalty

VI College Panhellenic Association Agreement (pg 25)
2) Establishment and Regulation of membership recruitment
...
B) Each NPC fraternity chapter has the right to COB to reach
quota or its total allowable chapter size during the regular
school year as defined by the school calendar. ...

(edited to correct a typo)

KEPike · #14 05-21-2003, 12:34 PM

NIC has a resolution that is basically stating that recruitment restrictions should not be used ever for punishment. You can go to their website and there is a search tool. Type in recruitment restrictions or something similar and your should be able to get it. This will be strong ammo against the school.

madmax · #15 05-21-2003, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by archangel689

Sugar and Spice... can you give a quote or something which says that ZTA must be given a class? I will toss them that ammunition real fast.....
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You better come up with better ammunition than a NPC/NIC policy.
Schools are not bound by those policies. A private or a public school could even ban the entire greek system. At a public school the greeks could then continue to operate off-campus. A private school could even prohibit their students from joining off-campus greek organizations.

http://www.dke.org/quarterly4.html