How to Build Better Greek Relations (used to be NPC vs. NPHC)

[CrimsonTide4]

http://www.mustudentnews.com/031104/stories/greek1.html



I will save my comments for later.

[TheEpitome1920]

I know there has been a lot of talk in the Greek community about getting NPHC involved with our activities. Personally, I really don’t want them to be involved with our events. I’m not saying this because of this past weekend’s escapades, but I feel that NPHC walks around like they are better than Panhellenic and IFC. Therefore, why would I want to include them on something Panhellenic and IFC participate in?

When sorority members from an organization I know nothing about vandalize something I have worked on in Greek Town, it makes me wonder what’s next. Are their letters going to be chalked down Richmond place or is NPHC going to protest outside Greek Week games?

Why don’t these sorority women stay in their little worlds and stay out of ours.

WOW. I have to come back to this one.

[Honeykiss1974]

Is this a "letter to the editor" or are they actually passing this off as a news article?

[TonyB06]

Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
Is this a "letter to the editor" or are they actually passing this off as a news article?

this was my thought. It woulda been nice to see a fact crash around in there somewhere? Even a well-written column carries some factual basis.

[Steeltrap]

On GC before. There was a thread in the Greek Life room about it. I think there were a lot of factual errors in the piece.

It was a column, not a news article, BTW. And Tony's right, facts should be a part of it, but from experience, some student editors are in a very formative stage and sometimes just aren't careful or don't have a clue. Not to excuse that, but just trying to say what happens.

The attitudes aren't surprising, though. I sound like a tired, broken record, but there are still a lot of people who have never had any meaningful contact with AfAms in this world.

--ST, former news editor of the USC Daily Trojan in the mid-1980s.

[reverie]

Not to be rude but in all honesty I know nothing about the national black sororities, so how the hell do they know anything about us?

There are many things wrong with this statement:
A. It IS rude.
B. She can't even call it the NPHC. She has to use a slang term. I bet she wouldn't like the NPC being called national white sororities.
C. Just because she's ignorant, it doesn't mean everyone else else.

[Steeltrap]

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...hlight=Marinko

There's the thread.

[CrimsonTide4]

ST, thanks for passing along the other thread. I did not see this one when it was originally posted. Thanks to those who posted further information as to what org and the history of the author of this article.

Someone on GC passed it along to me and I guess THAT PERSON did not perform a search either, lol.

[lovelyivy84]

Some people really just don't understand black people actually having confidence in their organizations IMO.

I think it's not that we act better, we just act like we don't need them and some NPC Greeks find it galling. Our attitude is 'I love my org and I dont want to be part of yours' and some people don't understand that. Like we should lay down and think ourselves inferior in order to get along.

We are not getting both sides of this story. People jumping in to judge probably have their own agenda.

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
ST, thanks for passing along the other thread. I did not see this one when it was originally posted. Thanks to those who posted further information as to what org and the history of the author of this article.

Someone on GC passed it along to me and I guess THAT PERSON did not perform a search either, lol.

Not a problem, CT4. I looked at the thread and I saw where the writer had to issue an apology because of her many factual errors. Plus some NPC greeks who went to Mizzou basically said the woman was a nutcase of sorts.

I also think Soror has good points that can be drawn to a lot of organizations, but I digress.

[AKA2D '91]

Originally posted by lovelyivy84
Some people really just don't understand black people actually having confidence in their organizations IMO.

or having confidence in themselves...

[DELTABRAT]

It 's interesting because a colleague of mine who is a top HIV researcher was asking me what I had done the weekend of July 24. I told her that I had gone to Vegas because of my sorority national convention. She looked at me and literally said "oh my God, I would never admit I was in a sorority around here. No one knows I WAS in one and they'd laugh if they knew." She then alluded that I should be somewhat embarrassed. We are actually good friends so I had no problem telling her that in MY community (save for some people) being in a BGLO was prestigious and that there were actually criteria that needed to be met before "joining." Also that the crux of them are public and community service and that I was still active beyond undergrad.

She was literally like "oh, so it's not a matter of 'who likes so and so? I liked him first'" Afterwhich she laughed and said "Oh well, good for you. No way would I ever let the words "I was in a sorority" come out of my mouth if I want to be taken seriously.

Please don't get me wrong, I know there are a lot of NPC/IFC sororities who do more than socialize, etc., but I think by and far, there is a huge distinction between what WE do and the pride and confidence that comes along with it. That, I think is what's not understood and definitely not appreciated.

OUT!

[blackerican]

The article is poorly written IMO. And when she says that she wouldn't want NPHC Greeks to get involved with "their" programs.....she sounds a little nutty . We have a similar situation on my yard. The NPC Greeks and the NPHC Greeks have been at odds for some time when it comes to "Greek Week" events. So, this year we (NPHC) decided to teach the NPC orgs. how to stroll/party-walk. The idea is going over very good. We hope it promotes unity.

[TheEpitome1920]

Greek Week is always a touchy subject. On my campus we revamped it so that chapters, regardless of size, could participate in ALL events. I think Greek Life Advisors should play some role in facilitating discussion among groups.

[MeezDiscreet]

Originally posted by blackerican
The article is poorly written IMO. And when she says that she wouldn't want NPHC Greeks to get involved with "their" programs.....she sounds a little nutty . We have a similar situation on my yard. The NPC Greeks and the NPHC Greeks have been at odds for some time when it comes to "Greek Week" events. So, this year we (NPHC) decided to teach the NPC orgs. how to stroll/party-walk. The idea is going over very good. We hope it promotes unity.

soror, not to take anything away from yall and yall's efforts and what not, but why are we, bglo's, only considered as a valuable member of the greek community when we're stepping or strutting/strolling/training?

when i was in undergrad, not once did any of the "other" greeks want us to give them advice on how we did our charity basketball tournaments, scholarship fashion show, speaker series, women's prayer breakfast, or any of the other great programs we did. why? they didn't care! they didn't even know we did all that we did. all they knew was "oh cool! you guys step really good!! can you teach us some of that?"

during homecoming, we weren't asked to participate in any other event except the talent show when we were asked to step. (what's funny is that we won 1st place for a raggedy show we through together. they didn't care because we looked cool stepping )

it all really bothered me.