Bush's speech and what's next?

[librasoul22]

Thoughts? I will wait til I am less pissed off to post mine.

Edited cause it won't let me delete it.

[Angels&Arrows]

We need to support our President and our troops! God Bless America, our leaders and our military men and women!

You do not have to agree with President Bush, but now is the time to put your support behind our country and our country men and women.

Please remember that our leaders and military often know things that we do not know and are unable to tell us for security reasons. We must put some trust in our leaders, that they are making the best decisions for our country.

Yes, I am a little biased... but I am trying not to let that skew this post.

I lived in Heidelberg, Germany when our Officer's Club was blown-up... the same club my family ate Sunday brunch at for two years. Our school buses were escorted during high alerts by MPs in Jeeps with M-16s. I lived in Berlin, Germany when one of the most popular night clubs that was crowded with Americans was blown-up. I use to think, well this is because we are in Europe, there are people who do not want us here...

I use to stop at Krispy Kreme as I walked through the World Trade Center twice a month going to One World Financial Center from the Hilton Millennium. Now I live in America and people have brought their hate and violence to my own land. As, if America did not have enough hate and violence of it's own to handle. Well, the police firemen, National Guard and Coast Guard handle that violence. Let the military and our President do what they in their expert opinion do what they feel is best to handle the outside violence/terrorism.

As we post our opinions, let us all remember that we are entitled to that opinion... and because of the first amendment we are able to speak it publicly (in ways that people are killed in other countries for doing). It is our right... our freedom... one that our ancestors fought and died for!!!!!!!!!!

[Tom Earp]

Did not hear his speach but am seeing the aftermath of it!

This whole thing sucks!!!

I do not agree with how he is doing this and The only thing I am worried about are our men and women who are there!

It is not the good guys and the bad guys folks.

We will for the most part be in uniforms fighting for right and the democratic way! They on the other hand will have civilian clothes, fight with anything available. Wilkl this contry and those who are going into Iraq be unscathed on our home land! Ha, dont fool youselfs! I am afraid it anint going to be pretty but messy and deadly for all involved!

Is Sadamnit Hussen a Crazy, hell yes he is! Would it have been better to give the so called information to the UN at the earliest possibable time, yes, was it NO!

I aint the Dixie Chick, so have no CD's to get run over, or not being French, no wine to pour down the gutter!

I and all of us have friends who are there and I worry about them not coming back whole!

Nuff said, I get more and more pissed the longer I talk about this!

[Cloud9]

Ok, can I just say, what the HELL was that crap he said when he was giving his "message to the Iraqi people"...something like, "do not destroy the oil, it is a valuable resource of Iraq"
Oh yeah Iraq, be sure to save that oil for us! I canNOT believe he went there.
Second, um did I miss something, or does it not state in the constitution that only CONGRESS can declare war??? Hmmm, speaking of tyrants BUSH...
Third, I don't think enough people realize what a huge diplomatic failure this signifies...they say history repeats itself - does anyone remember what happened when the League of Nations failed?? eh?
So here's my reaction to the Bush's speech(or rather the speech written for him by a team of speechwriters and read off of a teleprompter - support Bush? HELLZ NO!!!! If you ask me, this is the signal for people to speak out against this moron more than ever, before he completely destroys our country.

By the way, what the frig happened to Dick Cheney? The man seems to have cpmpletely disappeared, I can't remember the last time I read about him in the news, or saw him on tv, magazines, or anywhere. That's kind of disturbing...I bet Bush accidentally shot him on the ranch...soon we'll see him on a newscast saying how he had to do it because Cheney had become an axis of evil or something.

[OUlioness01]

This whole situation worries me, partly because a man I care about will be fighting this war, and because this whole war will have a lot of negative consequences for US foreign relations. I really really wanted to work in international politics, but now after seeing this whole thing blow up (and i am against the war) i don't know that i could deal with having conflicting viewpoints. I'm just praying for a speedy end to all of this madness, and a safe return home for all our loved ones.

I don't want to go to war, I don't think we should be going to war withough support from the UN Security Council, but it doesn't do me any good to fight something that I cannot affect. I'm just going to sit at home and wait for my friends to come home. I believe that Tom Daschle made a statement that our young people will be fighting this war, and it made me remember that a lot of guys I have known since kindergarten are over there right now. I just don't understand why they have to fight because of a 12 year old war that started and ended when we were 7/8 years old.

Sorry, I don't know if that has any real relevance to anything, but i've been having to be very supportive for someone I may not talk to again for a year other than in letters and I needed to vent because I could not tell him exactly how I feel about this whole mess that our country is in right now.

[Kevin]

I interviewed a gentleman in the administration at my school. He came to us after having worked at the UN for the US governement. He's an expert in foriegn affairs. He made an interesting comparison in the interview -- he compared the US to a new Rome.

Not Rome in terms of empire building and territory but Rome in terms of economics, influence and military power.

A very thought provoking comparison really. If we do indeed turn out to be the new Rome will our downfall be from becoming too spread out as well?

Kind of chilling.

[agger_rob]

Originally posted by Cloud9
By the way, what the frig happened to Dick Cheney? The man seems to have cpmpletely disappeared, I can't remember the last time I read about him in the news, or saw him on tv, magazines, or anywhere. That's kind of disturbing...I bet Bush accidentally shot him on the ranch...soon we'll see him on a newscast saying how he had to do it because Cheney had become an axis of evil or something.

Dick Cheney was on "Meet the Press" Sunday morning

[Cloud9]

hahaha, thanks, I was semi-joking, but it's good to know the man is still alive!

[librasoul22]

because I noticed the oil comment too!!!!!

The FIRST thing he said to the Iraqi people was "DO NOT DESROY THE OIL." SO telling!!!!

[AlphaSigOU]

Well, folks, anytime after 7 p.m. Central time (48 hours after the speech tonight) Wednesday expect to see the troops charging the berms delineating the Iraq/Kuwait border and the Tomahawks flying towards beautiful downtown Baghdad.

We gave Saddam a chance to own up to WMD and to get rid of his stockpile; he instead gave us the proverbial finger by stalling and concealing and using every known diplomatic tool in his bag. We gave peace a chance, and when peace fails we must use other means to get rid of the threat.

Come Wednesday night, or at a later time and place of the President's choosing, it's open season on Saddam Hussein, his family and political sycophants... and there ain't no bag limit! There WILL be a bullet or a bomb or a missile with his name on it.

Watch Saddam hose off a few Scuds towards Israel or encourage terrorists to attack us at home to try to instill fear. I wouldn't be surprised if he whips out his WMD 'Norbecker' (you have to have watched the movie Beer to get the in-joke ) to slow down our inexorable march towards Baghdad. And the Israelis have already stated they WILL retaliate if attacked.

BTW VP Cheney probably is sitting at some 'undisclosed' location in the Federal Relocation Arc, possibly Mount Weather or Raven Rock Mountain. Or some other classified relocation center we don't even know (or have the need to know) about.

Shortly after the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941, Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto (or is it Yamamoto Isoroku... using the proper Japanese/Chinese/Korean method of naming?) was quoted as saying:

"I had intended to deal a fatal blow to the American fleet by attacking Pearl Harbor... I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant, and fill him with a terrible resolve."

Less than two years later, Yamamoto was shot out of the sky. Three and a half years later, Japan was a near-total ruin.

[texasaopi]

Cloud 9,

Actually, the first thing President Bush addressed to the Iraqi people was that the US military will provide food and medicine, and help end the oppression of the Iraqi people.

As for Congress approving war, and President Bush being a "tyrant", they did, and he isn't. Here's his quote:

"Recognizing the threat to our country, the United States Congress voted overwhelmingly last year to support the use of force against Iraq."

--Not trying to discredit you, Cloud 9. Its just the journalist in me

[RACooper]

Originally posted by ktsnake
I interviewed a gentleman in the administration at my school. He came to us after having worked at the UN for the US governement. He's an expert in foriegn affairs. He made an interesting comparison in the interview -- he compared the US to a new Rome.

Not Rome in terms of empire building and territory but Rome in terms of economics, influence and military power.

A very thought provoking comparison really. If we do indeed turn out to be the new Rome will our downfall be from becoming too spread out as well?

Kind of chilling.

Actually I read the article that I believe you are refering to.... it was in "Harper's" and called "America the New Rome". It discussed the parellel between the collapse of republican (democratic) ideals and the rise of militarism and despotism in Rome and the US. While I did find the comparision simplistic and overly general it did prove to be a thought provoking article.

[AlphaSigOU]

So, for all intents and purposes... Congress has de facto declared a state of war against Iraq and authorized the President, as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States to use force to disarm Saddam. Earlier UN Security Council resolutions dating back to Gulf War I also back him up as well. Illegal war, my a**!

[MTSUGURL]

I wish people would see more issues than just the oil. It IS a valuable resource that DOES belong to the Iraqi people. Individuals discredit Bush by saying that he ignores the Iraqi people and how this will affect them, and then they blast him for addressing them. Be intelligent, be logical, and make up your mind.

Crystal

[AlphaSigOU]

I think this is the article...

http://www.cybertrails.com/~sbielke/...meAmerica.html