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Buttonz · #1 07-06-2003, 05:53 PM

What's upwith the non greek letters (like farmhouse). IS there a reason that the orgazations dont use greek letters? I have always wondered aobut that!

AUDeltaGam · #2 07-06-2003, 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by WarEagle1918
That's why I don't consider Farmhouse greek.

Why not? Just because they don't use greek letters?

FAB*SpiceySpice · #3 07-06-2003, 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by WarEagle1918
That's why I don't consider Farmhouse greek.

Their Alpha chapter is at my school and *trust* me, they are just as Greek as the rest of us. They are one of the top three fraternities on my campus. I think that'd be a pretty difficult acheivement if they weren't Greek.

SigkapAlumWSU · #4 07-06-2003, 07:31 PM

I second that. We have a Farmhouse chapter here and they are just as much greek as the next organization.

Otherwise, we'd have to say that Arcacia and Triange are not greek either, and as far as I'm concerned, they are.

Buttonz · #5 07-06-2003, 07:39 PM

I gave Farmhouse as anexample...I just want to know what the deal with them? Of course they are Greek, but why not use greek letters? And also, how did they come up with a name such as Farmhouse (for example)?

Betarulz! · #6 07-06-2003, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by Buttonz
Of course they are Greek, but why not use greek letters? And also, how did they come up with a name such as Farmhouse (for example)?

How did they come up with those names? Obviously the founders of Triangle, Ceres, Farmhouse, and Acacia chose to. It is just the same way your founders came up with your name. There are a million possible reasons why they chose other names, everythign from the fact that they started as a club (like farmhouse) to that they wanted to be different, to they didnt' want to be associated with "Greeks" despite their similar existence, to the fact that their name has a special significance for members...I honestly don't see what the big deal is? Who are you to judge or question?

Allie · #7 07-06-2003, 10:58 PM

FarmHouse actually help found Ceres. They both run out of the same national office, and get start a Ceres Chapter you need the recomendation of the local FH chapter (as it was explained to me) Also Ceres chose to follow FH as to not use greek letter but to be named after the Godess of cereal.

If you do a search under greek and roman gods and godesses you can get the whole story about Ceres. Who knew Western Civ class would pay off some day *lol*

sairose · #8 07-06-2003, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by Betarulz!
How did they come up with those names? Obviously the founders of Triangle, Ceres, Farmhouse, and Acacia chose to. It is just the same way your founders came up with your name. There are a million possible reasons why they chose other names, everythign from the fact that they started as a club (like farmhouse) to that they wanted to be different, to they didnt' want to be associated with "Greeks" despite their similar existence, to the fact that their name has a special significance for members...I honestly don't see what the big deal is? Who are you to judge or question?

Woah! I don't see that they were judging or questioning...they were just curious. I always wondered the same thing.

Buttonz · #9 07-07-2003, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by Betarulz!
How did they come up with those names? Obviously the founders of Triangle, Ceres, Farmhouse, and Acacia chose to. It is just the same way your founders came up with your name. There are a million possible reasons why they chose other names, everythign from the fact that they started as a club (like farmhouse) to that they wanted to be different, to they didnt' want to be associated with "Greeks" despite their similar existence, to the fact that their name has a special significance for members...I honestly don't see what the big deal is? Who are you to judge or question?

I really didnt mean to judge I was just intrested

Betarulz! · #10 07-07-2003, 01:03 AM

Sorry about that, I had just gotten finished with an arguement with a girl...I think I took a little of my frustration out here on GC...

Lesson to all: don't post angry

MysticCat · #11 07-07-2003, 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by Betarulz!
How did they come up with those names? Obviously the founders of Triangle, Ceres, Farmhouse, and Acacia chose to.

You could probably add Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia to that group as well. When originally founded in 1898, we were the simply the Sinfonia Fraternity. (Actually, at the very first we were the Sinfonia Club, but it soon became the Sinfonia Fraternity). Originally, our badge was a black triangle with a gold Old English "S".

The letters Phi, Mu, and Alpha began to figure in Fraternity writings and symbolism by 1902. The letters were unofficially added to the badge by some chapters soon after. In 1909 or 1910, the addition of the letters to badge became official. The "alternate" name, Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia, came into use early on, but the change was not made official until the 1940's. We still call the Fraternity either by its full name, by the name Phi Mu Alpha, or by the simple name Sinfonia. Brothers are called Sinfonians, not "Phi Mu Alphas."

There is a historical/academic reason why Greek letters may not have been used by some of these groups, at least not a first. The earliest fraternities (and sororities) were born in liberal arts institutions, where Greek and the classics were a standard part of the curriculum. It was natural, therefore, for GLO founders to turn to them for inspiration.

Groups like Triangle and FarmHouse, however, took root in technical and argricultural institutioins, where Greek was not a standard part of the curriculum. Similarly, Phi Mu Alpha was born in a conservatory -- our first four chapters were all in conservatories -- where Greek was not taught. Some of these groups never "latched on" to Greek, while others (like Phi Mu Alpha) apparently adopted Greek letters in imitation of already-existing GLOs.

Hope this makes some sense.

ilovemyglo · #12 07-07-2003, 09:39 AM

Farmhouse on my campus is an excellent chapter- and they are very much greek.
I was lavaliered FH during my time and spent quite a bit of time with them.
If they aren't greeks how are they a part of the NIC?

DWAlphaGam · #13 07-07-2003, 09:43 AM

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Originally posted by Allie
Also Ceres chose to follow FH as to not use greek letter but to be named after the Godess of cereal.

If you do a search under greek and roman gods and godesses you can get the whole story about Ceres. Who knew Western Civ class would pay off some day *lol*

LMAO! I'm sorry, but "Goddess of cereal" just has me cracking up and I have to post the correct info. Ceres, which is the Roman name for the Greek goddess Demeter, is the goddess of agriculture. The word "cereal" was derived from the word "Ceres," though.

http://www.mythweb.com/encyc/entries/demeter.html

OUlioness01 · #14 07-07-2003, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by DWAlphaGam
LMAO! I'm sorry, but "Goddess of cereal" just has me cracking up and I have to post the correct info. Ceres, which is the Roman name for the Greek goddess Demeter, is the goddess of agriculture. The word "cereal" was derived from the word "Ceres," though.

http://www.mythweb.com/encyc/entries/demeter.html

lmao. thank you for clearing that up. i was going to fix that if no one else had.

MysticCat · #15 07-07-2003, 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by OUlioness01
lmao. thank you for clearing that up. i was going to fix that if no one else had.

Well, in Allie's defense, remember that the primary meaning of "cereal" is any plant that yields an edible grain, such as wheat, rye, corn, oats, spelt, mullet, rice, etc. The secondary definition is the grain itself. A preparation of that grain -- such as oatmeal or Cap'n Crunch -- while perhaps the first thing we think of when we hear the word, is a tertiarary definition. If the primary definition is applied, goddess of cereal is not that far from goddess of agriculture.

That said, "the Goddess of Cereal" does have a certain ring to it.